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You are here: > Radio > Free Energy Now > Oct. 11, 2006

Interview with Prof. Szabo about his Energy-by-Motion machine

EBM machines now going commercial harness a free magnetic phenomena to produce clean, abundant energy.  On Saturday Oct. 14, 2006 from 3:00 to 3:55 pm Pacific, Professor Szabo will be interviewed live by Sterling D. Allan.

Interview Recording (20 Mb; MP3; 55 min; Oct. 14, 2006)

Oct. 13, 2006 update: NOT A SELF-RUNNER YET
The company's present prototypes measure a small degree over unity, according to the measurement instruments and methods used. However, the extent of output exceeding input is not enough in the present prototypes to then cycle back to keep the unit running, as a self-runner. Any language expressing the self-running capability is extrapolative to a larger size, not yet built or proven, which allegedly has the necessary combination to keep the unit running and provide extra energy for use. (Source: Prof. Szabo, by phone to Sterling D. Allan.)
"C 4/4" EBM Unit click to enlarge
"C 4/4" EBM unit

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Three EMB units in operation.

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Control Room, behind the three EBM units above.

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BUDAPEST, HUNGARY -- After twenty years of behind-the-scenes research and development and prototype testing and refinement, Prof. Leslie Szabo is now ready to launch his product for sale commercially.

The patent and patent-pending Energy-by-Motion (EBM) machine he developed runs itself using a principle of magnetic flux, and has enough juice left over to run other things.  A unit capable of putting out 15 megawatts equivalent of power, for example, would produce around 10 megawatts net to the end user.  The unit will run continuously, with no input fuel, until it is turned off.

There are fourteen different output ranges to choose from, the smallest being capable of producing 1.5 megawatts, and the largest producing 225 megawatts.  The output torque can either be used as torque or it can applied to a generator to produce electricity.

The unit is turned on using a starter motor with two to five percent capacity of the unit's output.  The unit is then brought to five to ten percent "over-speed" then disengaged, at which point the load is then applied to the unit.  Between one to ten percent of the output is cycled back to the unit to keep it running.

The EBM units put out quite a bit of heat.  In the 15 megawatt example mentioned above, 3.5 to five megawatts of that would be reflected in heat.  The insulation material on the coils can only handle up to 95 degrees Celsius (203Ί F), so part of the engineering of the unit includes a heat exchanger system to pull away the heat being generated.  The heat can be considered part of the productive output of the system, in addition to the torque output.

There are at least two other companies that have developed mechanism for generating electricity from low temperature heat.  For example, Kokhala's EnergyCell can generate electricity from heat sources as low as 120 degrees Farenheit. (Ref.) Mitteran Energy has an experimental small scale power plant  producing electricity and refrigeration temperatures fueled simply by the heat in warm water - typically 150 degrees Fahrenheit. (Ref.) 

Just how the EBM device works, as well as the theory of where the energy comes from, is proprietary.  Szabo says the principle is to "keep the flux state going."  It has to do with "a specially-shaped asymmetrical magnetic field."

"We have a very stringent non-disclosure agreement," said Szabo, responding to a question about how it is that knowledge of their progress has not surfaced until now.  "We run a very tight ship."

From October through November, the company is hosting demonstrations of the technology at their laboratory in Budapest, Hungary.  Another demo unit called the E-720, capable of 50 kilowatts output, may be brought to either Washington, D.C. or to Norfolk, Ontario for demonstrations in the West.

The EBM website features copies of two certifications of performance signed by credentialed individuals, including a professor from the University of Western Ontario, a vice president of Engineering from Norfolk Power Company of Ontario, as well as four professors from Miscoik University in Budapest.  "These are just two of thousands of tests we have run," said Szabo, who left Sopron University in Hungary in 1956, where he served as an Adjunct Professor of Mining Machinery, under Professor Falk.

Szabo is now apparently being recommended for a Nobel prize for this work. (Ref.)

The technology is protected by patents awarded in sixteen countries, including the United States, and patents have been filed in 42 countries that represent about 80% of the Gross Domestic Product of the globe.

The cost of energy production is estimated in the range of between two and six cents per kilowatt-hour, which is competitive with wholesale grid prices for electricity.  Szabo confides, however, that that price could be much lower, but is strategically being kept high so as to not make the technology disruptive.

The interview this Saturday will discuss these various matters in depth.

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Scam or Real?

On Feb. 7, 2010, Michael M. wrote:

Why have most EBM advertising web sites not updated thier information in the past couple of years ? Why do companies like GAMMA and Perendev who claim to use different technologies are asking for exorbitant liscensing fees and are refusing to demonstarte their product to potential buyers. If this technology really works why have not governments invested in it and are instead investing in expensive inefficient PV systems with long payback periods while we suffer the price hikes of fossil fuels.
the EU has spent 7 Billion Euro in the past 10 years for the development of nanotechnology. Were there any funds spent of commercializing EBM ?
??? Billions have been spent to accelerate atoms to replicate the big bang ......
Has Prof.Szabo really been nominated for the Nobel Prize ( I presume for physics)
What is the theory behind all this. How does this theory obeys or deviates from the Laws of Thermodynamics or Unified Theory.
Or is this all wishful thinking. Is it greed or ingnorance that is keeping a bunch of people to reveal the benefit to the rest of humankind. How can one be a step ahead of the crowd and be called a genious if he cannot deliver. Even if he is two step ahead one cannot even call him a crackpot.....not when he is asking for 300000 Euro for a promise which has not been delivered in 6 years. 
Gamma are now stating in there long winding agreements that their patents have expired and are relying on 'copyright'. Now , we all know that a product or process cannot have a copyright as only written works have a copyright.
What these companies??? are asking for sure is money ( perhaps equity funds or venture capital) . However they cannot state what they will be delivering and when. They state that they have testimonials from relaible individuals but fail to get their equipment 
certified to existing standards. Can we see a technical data sheet and some graphs showing loading of the unit and outputs.
Are there any papers writing on this subject in scientific journals. Have the originators behind this technology attended any conferences. Have they attempted to raise funds through financial institutions , EU FP funds , EUREKA etc to develop/ commercialise their invention.
Unless these questions are answered in a rational way , these people will be looked upon suspiciously.
Lucent in Australia how have been working on similar EBM technology was given the Bent Spoon Award as their technology was revealed to be a scam.

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Page composed by Sterling D. Allan Oct. 11, 2006
Last updated December 24, 2014





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