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Were joined today, November 16, 2015 by none other
than James F. Murray, III, of
. Jim, following in Nikola Tesla's footsteps has come up with the Dynaflux
Alternator; the Switched Energy Resonance Power Supply or SERPS; and the
Toroidal Rotating Transformer, among many other things; for which he has
been awarded several patents.
We finally got a feature page up about him at PESWiki last week.
Jim, welcome to the show.
1.) How old were you
when you developed an interest in electricity?
I think I was interested
in it before I knew what it was; dad's antique train set.
In old days, could take motors out for cleaning; doing that very young.
Probably 5-6 years old
2.) Describe some of
your most ambitious earlier projects.
Sprinkled around. First
electromagnet, out of wires from local hardware store and big dry cell
battery, wrapped around spikes, picked up pieces of metal. The effect that
became more exciting, later, in grade school, interested in radio and
rocketry. Varieties of rocket fuel; desire to control them, radio, radio
control. Moved to digital computers; designed some computers controlled by
relay; tape deck. Scrap yard, 14 years old
Most exotic in H.S.,
thoroughly enamored by concept of particle accelerators, designed to;
electron and proton accelerator. One exhibit in museum of science.
3.) What were your
original career goals?
Yes, very focused.
Intereseted in particle
Wrote book on subject
Link between Van de
Graaff generator and particle accelerator
Had built Van de Graaff
Utilize in nuclear
Initial goal: to MIT,
major in physics and math, into high energy physics as career. Changed in
Senior year when dad died, couldn't afford.
During that period
Started college at
city, advanced math, chemistry; had old library; found really amazing
volumes on works of Tesla and contemporary.
Didn't realize disconnect
between Tesla and mainstream science. Had enough physics under belt that I
realized that what he was saying didn't jibe. That realization that made
me decide once and for all, if Tesla had discovered novel things, I
wanted to rediscover them; even though I didn't have the vaguest
idea of what I was up against.
I never wavered from it
once I decided.
4.) How did you get
into alternative energy research?
I knew there was
something outside of what was classically taught.
What showed me that I was
on my chosen path. Guy I met in 1996 (?), Gene Carini, up in Conneticut,
endeavoring to build electric car. When I found him, instant rapport; only
19 years old; the device he produced for this electric car, odd, captured
my attention; couldn't figure out where the advantages were coming from.
Had learned to be skillful machinist and model maker. Started making
machines to bring out hidden concepts that might have been lurking in
5.) When did you have
your first meaningful break-through?
Have to be honest in
answering that question.
First real input came
from a series of inspirations
First while working with Gene Carini, very unusual piece of mechanical
equipment that came to me in an altered state of consciousness; put me on
totally different track, equations investigating, equipment building.
Didn't result in anything concrete. That came several years later, when
, working for Steel company. They had an old shovel, 1926 vintage, fork
device, rotating equipment. When I found out they were going to scrap it,
I asked to remove the controls and motor generator, to save them,
beautiful engineering relics. You can do that, we don't want junk laying
around, better find something meaningful to do with it. I can use that
equipment to build large synchronous capacitor, knock 20-30% off your
power. That floored him, communicated with superiors in Bethalem PA, be
sure you don't waste a lot of money. Took 3 years to build. Made such a
change that the power company sent engineers to see if they had bypassed
power. More complicated than starting motors slow. It allowed demand to be
almost completely negated. They take maximum demand number and use that as
multiplier to modify kW-h reading; that's what they bill you on. You could
have one huge demand and that upscales power bill by large numbers.
Recording equipment, looked at signals associated with what I was doing.
In case of demand; you could see demand peak rise, such as when starting
Two events close together
in time. Metering equipment had to look at average.
Tesla had talked about concept of oscillating power opposed to undulating
power, which is what we do in industry today.
even though AC... a glorified version of DC. Tesla obsoleted his own
system by going to the next system he called oscillating power; different
in nature. This installation in
got me thinking along those lines. Led to Dynaflux Alternator
Human mind modifies by making things linear. Gives bastardized view of
nature, restricted understanding of what is really happening. Nature
doesn't do anything like that, everything oscillates. Very few things
6.) Did this discovery
lead to other discoveries? If so, what were they?
Began to investigate everything from the stand point of Power, rather than
If you were to film a guy
on high wire dropping cannon ball. From moment ball released to time it
hits the ground, that continuity represents the power involved. If you
stop the film at any point, that snapshot represents what physicists refer
to as energy. It's really an artificiality. It allows you to make
calculations through the energy stored, but artificial in sense that it
doesn't really happen that way in nature. In real world, you can have
machine, nothing happens, represents huge potential.
Power is relativistic.
Guy watching object going by, versus moving with the object. Only the
sudden deceleration that liberates the power.
All kinds of things I
dabbled into over the years 99% were engendered by study of Tesla's stuff.
Had radical ideas about resonance. Different types of resonance.
Mechanical, impulse, ... all revolve around common theme: optimization of
a particular effect.
two things stood out as important projects: "Tesla Wave". Very
few people have heard of. That became a major are of investigation for me.
Other: oscillative power a phenomenon that could stand on its own; should
be subject to a form of optimization. That led me to most of the
accomplishments I've enjoyed to date. Proprietary. Unusual wave form, when
properly applied has properties that shouldn't be guessed at. Tesla made
use of that in ___.
Other parameter: I dubbed "energy resonance". Not patented, not
Those two concepts joined together combined with Dynaflux, comes to SERPS
Dynaflux is directional power device, part of time one direction, part of
time other direction. Earlier prototypes very expensive and complicated to
make. No parts available to order. Had to build from scratch. Began to
think about it, is there anything that can be done on receiving end either
adjunct or replace effect entirely, stand-alone on receiver end that
people could benefit from. Thinking about solid state. Took quite a few
7.) When did the SERPS
(Switched Energy Resonance Power Supply) concept present itself?
~first device functioned
the way I wanted it to, ~25 years ago. I didn't have equipment necessary
to properly analyze what was going on. Began aquiring sophisticated
instrumentation to measure. Very expensive. Had private funder who agreed
to purchase $85k. Began making studies, gave insights into real nature or
power. That's when I finally understood one of Tesla's
"secrets". Even though he shared openly.
power." Doesn't accomplish any work, a real thing unto itself.
"Reactive Watt" ΰ
"Var Watt" the basis from which.
Q. 20x, 50x OUT
superficially. Too much lip service not healthy for maintaining IP.
8.) How is it possible
to demonstrate additional power without violating any physical laws?
Most people don't realize that you can have very beneficial effects
forthcoming by applying these concepts that appear to represent a gain in
a system's behavior. People are quick to call that free energy. In my
world, that's an absolutely meaningless term.
Expand to give priority
to the idea.
systems, the energy and the world that that system can perform are
absolutely equal in all respects; engendering the belief that is always
the case; and it's not.
Non-linear system, the
energy conserved, but work done is greater or less than. That's the area
where things get interesting.
The mathematics is
"overunity". Most people don't know what "unity"
means. Term out of motor/generator area. When you do a load analysis on
performance of motor or generator: list of all the various losses
associated with machine's function, subtract out of power applied to the
system. What you're left with, mathematically must be equal electrical
load being supported by the generator.
That relationship gives
you two numbers. E.g. 1000 W into 1000 W output = 1
Segregated load analysis.
In dynaflux, e.g., after
subtracting losses, .5 or .6. Tesla
talks about this opening. This is what motivated him to make as close to
perfect prototypes as possible. Buried in overall behavior of device.
If I was just starting out, and saw all the stuff I had to learn, I
wouldnt go there.
Potential survival of our
species, continuance of planet. What better thing could I ....
9.) Did Tesla have any
technologies which operated along similar lines?
Trying to raise money to
write book: touch on
Not technical document.
Want to talk about all the things I experienced on this journey of mine.
People who knew Tesla
opened my eyes the most. Some mechanical devices. Tesla's self-running
engine, running off environmental heat.
should be replaced with "Free Work"
Nothing will bring a scowl faster to a scientist than the term "free
Want to gain the respect of academia.
10.) How is power
oscillation different from alternating current?
AC under normal
circumstances, e.g. resistive load, such as space heater or lamp.
Alternating voltage and current. When you multiply voltage x current, you
will produce a sine squared wave. Plot undulating function, average value
of that function gives us the number of
associated with AC voltage and current in powering appliances.
Shift from that point of
view to oscillating power: cannot have sit on x axis with no negative
component, has to have negative portion to it; just as sine wave
oscillates above and below. Standard AC. Reactive Watts, a true reversal
of direction of power flow, can still power resistive load, SERPS.
11.) Can you give
examples of Net work and absolute work?
Should be available in
most physics book worth their salt. E.g. guy wants to move heavy trunk
across attack floor, will slide with application of 100 lb of force. 10
feet away from initial position. 1000 ft-lbs of work. If he pushes too
far, can't open because of sloping ceiling. Moves back 5 feet.
Analyzing what he did.
Absolute work: 1500 ft-lbs. But by definition of displacement in physics,
net displacement, 500 ft-lbs.
Reservoir high up, when power is cheap, pump water from river up to
reservoir, then during daylight hours, when load is increased, peaking
power, let river from reservoir, put power back on line.
If you have frequency that interacts with 60 Hz, then you play that game
much more quickly, with very interesting results. Idea of having
oscillating power is not confined to our technology. Just doing it
immediately, rather than 12 hours.
12.) What future plans
do you have for your technologies?
None of this comes easy.
Expensive. Custom built. Designed, assembled, tested, expensive.
I was 19 years old; now
Perfect, get it to
market. At a point now where I can demonstrate these things with accuracy
and performance, but still a ways from commercialization.
Generation of net power?
SERPs does that. It depends entirely on how you apply it. You can't just
have a receiving separate from transmitting device, allows this type of
situation to develop.
e.g. Beckland Steel; put into resonance, over and above what original
installation designed to be.
10k HP generators across
river, periodically in ice storms,
Issue warning to bring
load down, sustain operations until main power returned.
During one of those
periods of time, induced exotic mode of resonance onto power grid:
generating station across river, my motor, load represented by communities
What happened, load went
off both generators, couldnt detect load, yet the power was being
delievered as it had in the past. Led to Dynaflux.
Has not been applied to
Assistance, other people involved. Would have to involve.
Takes instruction. Overall education of the individual.
Patents not yet filed on SERPs. Takes time.
I'm not going to be able
to interact with just anyone; has to be sincere inquiry.
One thought, worth ending
on. Doesn't have anything to do with this project
At this cine '1967,
without a break
When first starting out,
Carini, Otis Carr, a lot older; very few people in this type of thinking.
Now the world has changed a great deal; though not everyone is equipped
with necessary understanding to pursue, the fact that there are a lot of
people interested is gratifying. I don't have any problem with other
people interpreting these facts in their own way to reach similar goals.
Good to see the old dinosaurs are no longer alone in this area of
investigation. I believe it's indicative that change must come if we're
going to sustain planet and not destroy planet in process of pursuing
sources of energy. Just question who and when. Obvious to people cognizant
of vested interest who don't want this come forth unless they control it.
People looking over shoulder whether you like it or not. I say onward and
upward. Happy to make contribution I can to this pursuit. Have to walk
thin line, desire to help, disclose/protect IP.