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You are here: > News > June 23, 2015;  3:00 pm MDT

Rosch: "We Pulse the Air"

Stuart's observation that the air compressor doesn't cycle on and off leads to elaboration on how the Kinetic Power Plant (KPP) works, through a combination of several simultaneous effects, not just pumping air into floats.

For those who have not been following this saga, Rosch Innovations KPP (Kinetic Power Plant) is a buoyancy device involving floats that fill with air at the bottom of a water tank to cause them to rise, turning a generator in the process, such that the generator produces enough energy to self-loop while also producing excess energy for base load power production {e.g. utility company capability.)

by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News

Sunday morning, at breakfast near Spich, Germany, Stuart told me he had a thought come to him that had him puzzling regarding Rosch' KPP generator.

"Why doesn't the air compressor cycle on and off, like air compressors usually do?" 

In the Rosh KPP, the air compressor is always on.

As we approached some of the guys at Rosch about this, I found it quite interesting that they had not thought of this question before, either. "That's a good question," seemed to be their expression -- not in a doubting way, but in a puzzlement way.

One of them conjectured that it was to prevent a feedback loop. Each time the air compressor cycles on, it would require a surge of electricity, which would signal to the system to substantially increase the power output. Keeping it running and just regulating how much it is producing would prevent the surge that comes from starting such a significant motor from a stop.

I do know that the air compressor, rated at 7.5 kW, is oversized for the 15 kW set-up. If I understand correctly, it's actually intended for and will end up with the 100 kW demo system.

Later that morning, when Detlef Dohmen, the CEO, arrived, as we were in a conference room together, he chuckled at the question and what we had surmised was the reason for it staying on.

Then, like a loving father, he said something that to me turned on a very big light bulb of awareness: "We pulse the air."

"That's not just a tank of air. We have some special things in there."

To appreciate the significance of this, be aware that in the last year of conference calls with the New Energy Systems Trust, nearly every week, Mike Waters would give us a tutorial on the role that pulsing plays in evoking overunity effects. I wish I could articulate what he said, but I can say that it made sense, and I could tell that Mike knew what he was talking about.

It wasn't just one type of modality of exotic free energy that this applied to, either. The principle applied in several modalities, and for the same reasons.

To put it very simply, it has to do with resonance. Picture soldiers walking across a bridge, and how they have to stop marching in step when they do so, because in times past, if they didn't, the resonance of their marching could bring down a bridge.

Think of Tesla's tapping on a beam in a high-rise, causing it to start to shake. Resonance.

You all know what I'm talking about. This isn't fairy tails, it is documented history with a lot of data to support it.

As I was driving to the airport with Mr. Dohmen this morning, I asked more about this, saying, "From what I can tell, the generator also has a significant role in the effect. It's not just a regular generator." He confirmed that this is the case.

"There are a lot of things going on at the same time," he said. "It's not just air being blown into a float."

That's probably why they guard the circuitry so closely. The programming is where their intellectual property and advances are found.

He did tell me the other day that this is why the system shut off when I tried to plug in my power cord with the ground only protruding on one side, not both, as is typical in German sockets. They have an algorithm in their software that shuts the system off if they detect something unusual in the load. There are clever people who can program loads to reverse engineer the circuitry. That is why Rosch programmed their circuit such that if it detects something unusual in the load, then it shuts off -- kind of like the shoplifting gate and beeper at the entrance / exit of some stores.

A couple of days earlier, Frank had said that there are three primary components contributing to the unusual properties of the generator (working): the buoyancy tower, the generator, and the circuitry. Apparently, he wasn't aware of the significance the compressor plays, or he forgot to mention it.

Rosch manufactures the generator and the air compressor (and the circuitry, of course, as well as the buoyancy tower).

Also, elaborating on buoyancy, another thing Mr. Dohmen said was to think of submarines. He put it something to the effect: "If buoyancy couldn't be overunity, then how would they get what goes down to come back up?" That was a puzzling statement to me, because there are plenty of power sources on a submarine. But he was referring to something that has to do with the function of air and buoyancy in enabling the sub to descend and ascend in the water. I'm not that familiar with that mechanism, so his analogy was a bit lost on me.

He said that one of the Engineers on their development team was involved with Russian submarine technology, and a variation of that is used in their air compressor.

You'll notice that there is an unencumbered, smaller air hose that bypasses the control section of the hoses. This is to allow the air from the mains to get into the float system when they are starting it up and don't have power to the air compressor yet.

The following is my conjecture. After the system is running, the air flow controls from the air compressor, ride on top of what is able to get through the bottom hose unencumbered. Alternatively, there is some kind of valve that blocks that bypass, but the build of the three-way doesn't seem unusual.

Another thing we learned that ties in somewhat to this discussion, is the primary reason why they stopped having the air compressor powered by mains power, and only powered by the generator from the floats.

They described a few situations in the past in which the system went into run-away mode. One time, one of their 100 kW systems self-destructed, because it got going so fast. In some prototypes, they used brakes on the mechanism to apply in such situations. One time, as the system was going so fast, the brakes disintegrated in a few seconds. By having the air compressor tied to the output of the generator, if something happens to the float system, and it stops, then the air compressor stops as well.

One of the philosophies of Rosch is to over-engineer their systems, to overbuild them so that they will be as "idiot-proof" as possible; so that as they go out into third world situations (their primary first target), the operators won't have to have special degrees just to run the plants. (Not to say people in the third world are "idiots." They just usually don't have as much education/training as is usually found in the first world.) 

This is illustrated by the "15 kW" demo we saw. That tower, they say, could run an 80 kW generator. And the generator they are using for the demo could produce up to 22 kW, but they are running it quite a bit lower than that (by limiting the number of things they put on the load). Of course, the 7.5 kW air compressor is part of its "load," but is not pulling it's full the 7.5 capacity since it is much larger than it needs to be for this scenario, so it's only running at a much lower capacity.

Speaking of durability, there were many so-called engineering experts who said that the gearbox on the 5 kW system was inadequate to handle the torque that would be produced by a 5 kW input from a slow-moving chain to a fast-moving generator. Mr. Dohmen had me be sure to take a photo of that gearbox, explaining that the gearbox was engineered by one of the leading firms in Germany who do nothing but that kind of engineering. "It can handle 5000 Newton-meters of force," he said.

I can tell you from hanging out with these guys that they are not afraid to spend money when it needs to be spent on things that require proper engineering. They take great pride in their work. Mr. Dohmen dotes over the KPP like a father would a newborn child. He has obviously put a lot into this birthing, and he doesn't appreciate people jumping to "fraud" conclusions. Skepticism is one thing, to point out possible points of trickery, but to jump to the conclusion of "fraud" is libel when you don't have adequate evidence. Just keep that in mind when you go blabbing your mouth without adequate information. Overunity could be shut down because of libel.

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Last updated July 14, 2015




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