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You are here: > News > July 29, 2013 (near midnight, MDT)

Plasma Booster Demonstrated at 2013 TeslaTech Conference

Bob Rohner and Dannel Roberts put on quite a show at the ExtraOrdinary Technology Conference this past weekend, showing a "plasma booster" that emits a warm (not hot) flame that has propulsive force; and a bright light flash; showing progress in their noble gas research. (Videos)

The "plasma booster", which emits a tangible puff of air (e.g. to provide propulsion in a turbine) was cool enough that you could hold your hand right in what appeared to be a flame.

Bob demonstrates the flashing plasma light during Dannel's lecture, using noble gas.

by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News

One of the highlights of the 2013 TeslaTech conference in Albuquerque was a demonstration of a "Plasma Booster" by Bob Rohner, who has been involved in Joseph Papp-based noble gas engine technology for many years. He says he actually worked with Joseph Papp, building an engine for him. 

Bob was with his associate, Dannel Roberts, author of Particle Mechanics, which Dannel says explains why the phenomenon works. I must admit that at this point I'm skeptical about the theory, but I did purchase the book to read. [July 30, pm; I should add that for what it's worth, when my wife read the description on the back cover of the book, the "energetic reading" she got was that he thinks he is onto something, but that it is bogus. That's my impression as well.]

I posted a story on July 25 about a brief interview I did with Dannel at the conference.  (Note that there is no "i" in his name: it is not "Daniel" as most people want to assume.)

Dannel and Bob had a booth at the conference, and Dannel gave a lecture Sunday morning titled "Key Ring Atom & Roberts Rotary Engine", including a demonstration by Bob of the technology.

If I understand correctly, they claim to use a high voltage arc to initiate a plasma in ambient air. The alleged plasma is just above room temperature, even though it appears like a torch. And it includes a pushing force. The effect is supposedly better when noble gasses are used instead of air.

Bob also demonstrated a bright lightning-like flash in a chamber. They somehow connect the output from the flashing "plasma" to a capacitor, which they then use to power a small motor, which you can see spinning as the light is flashing.

Lecture Notes

(Added July 30, 8 am MDT)

In his lecture, Dannel gave a brief history of his involvement in this technology. He said that in 3rd or 4th grade he could "see gravity and how it works." His book is an outgrowth of that. But it was too radical, and he couldn't get libraries to carry it. 

In 1971, he heard people talking about rotary engines, and like Tesla, he could envision, in three dimensions, how they worked. That is a gift he's had all his life--envisioning in three dimensions--and it wasn't until he was 40 that he realized that most other people don't have this ability.

More recently, on the web, he came across descriptions of the noble gas engine, and he drove to Iowa to meet with Bob, telling him, "I think I know how this works." Bob's first inclination was to write him off, but then there was something to what Dannel said that was corroborated, so he's been putting up with him ever since. In December, 2012, they got their first piston engine to run--perhaps the first since Papp. 

The way Dannel describes it is that in nature, when thunder and lightning are combined, they have an explosive force, illustrated by blowing the bark off trees when the tree is struck. "We are doing this on a 3-inch scale," he said.

Then, in April, they posted the first video featuring "Robert's Rotary Engine", which is Bob's first name (for those of you not familiar, "Bob" is a shortened version of "Robert"), and Dannel's last name. Dannel calls this first version "Alfred." The next version, once they get some Hall effect sensors for the timing of the firing of the "plasma blaster", will be called "Barney".

One thing that piqued my interest during Dannel's lecture was his claim about the input versus output energy on that rotary version of the noble gas engine. He said the input was 3.5 horsepower (HP), and the output was in the range of 3 to 4 HP.

I didn't catch his description, but he said something about the output being in the range of 12 V, which meant that the system had a lot of torque--potentially more than an electric motor. In conclusion, he said, "We saw lightning, thunder, movement, and electricity."


Here are some videos I took.

Here is a demo of the technology in the Marriot, Pyramid Hotel lobby, where their booth was located.

Here is the demo Bob did during Dannel's lecture on Sunday.

You can order the full lecture DVD from

Here is a video I shot at the hotel restaurant when Bob was describing his experiences back when working with Joseph Papp.

And in case you didn't catch it the other day, when I posted it, here is the video of my earlier interview with Dannel at his booth.

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