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You are here: > News > January 25, 2012

Centrifugal Force, Free Energy, and More with Engineer Claude Thiebaut

An interview has been conducted with French engineer and centrifugal force expert, Claude Thiebaut. He describes how centrifugal force is a real force, not fictitious, and can be used to produce reactionless thrust and free energy.

Excerpt from Claude Thiebaut's website

by Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News

Over the past several months, I have had the honor of getting to know Claude Thiebaut, a French engineer. He describes himself as being, "a skilled engineer with 1st degree mathematics knowledge." From his formal education and years of additional research, he has become an expert on centrifugal force. He has convinced me that centrifugal force is "real" and not just a fictitious force. In fact, it can be used to produce reactionless thrust and free energy.

Please read the following interview that details the potential of centrifugal force.

C = Claude 
H = Hank

H: Hello Claude, thank you for agreeing to participate in this interview. Perhaps we could begin by you giving your full name, and telling us about your background?

C: I am Claude Thiιbaut. I graduated from an engineering school named Ecole Nationale Supιrieure des Arts et Industries de Strasbourg (ENSAIS) regrouped recently to INSA engineer schools. My specialization is mechanics. I am also graduated from CNAM (Conservatoire National des Arts et Mιtiers) section mechanics and from Nancy IUT (Institute University of Technology).

H: Thank you for that information! Where do you currently reside?

C: I exerted my skills during 35 years in an international company that manufactured trains and energy power plants. I reside as a Parisianer in a nearby suburb.

H: The topic of today's interview is centrifugal force. Perhaps you could provide a definition of centrifugal force for our readership?

C: When a mass is forced to travel along a circular path, it is needed to apply an inwards force from the gyration center. It is equivalent to say that the mass has to be constantly accelerated inwards along the radius. Otherwise, the mass would continue traveling in a straight line.

I am thinking about displacement of the rotation center.

When the rotation center of the mass is free to move, there is no more reaction force causing the mass to travel along a pure circle (considered in a fix terrestrial reference frame). The followed path is always a circle in the moving reference frame attached to rotation center. In this reference frame, the angular rotation speed is constant and the centrifugal force which causes the rotation center to move is rotating with the mass. We know that the direction of the force is that of gyration radius.

H: Just for the record, centripetal force is the inward force pulling inward on the rotating object?

C: If we consider a mechanism constituted by two counter rotating masses which rotate at same angular speed omega, the resulting centrifugal force applied on gyration center will remain in symmetry plan formed by two rotating masses.

H: Yes, that makes sense.

C: This is a forced alternative vibratory system.

H: What is the result of such a system?

C: In a similar manner to an electrical circuit the resulting developed power can be calculated as: Fmax x Vmax cos (phi) /2. Phi being the phase angle between the force vector and speed vector.

H: So in simple terms, in such a system you have two rotor arms moving in opposite directions. There is a weight on the end of each arm. Per each revolution, there will be two points at which the centrifugal force of each weight is vectored in the same direction. This results in a force in one direction and then a force in the opposite direction, correct?

C: If the system is set up well, we can reduce the phase angle to a minimum value in such a way to produce a maximum power.

H: Is my above description of the system basically accurate?

C: The resulting force is alternative (for example along Y axis).

H: So for example, if the device was setup vertically, there would be a downward thrust and then an upward thrust, that could be harnessed to lets say turn a crank and pump water?

C: Exactly. You have the correct understanding. When you calculate the power developed by two vectors varying with a phase angle, you have to introduce the term cos(phi). Like in electricity. This is called the power factor. The power is then equal to product of RMS x cos (PHI).

H: You are also saying that the output power of such a system is disconnected or decoupled from the input power. For example, once you get the system up to speed (let's say consuming 1000 watts over a minutes time) you could then reduce that input to only what was required to overcome bearing friction and air resistance. Perhaps only (making up these numbers) 50 watts. Regardless of the energy you extracted from the system's upward and downward thrusts, you would only be consuming a constant, small input of power to overcome friction, etc. Is this correct?

C: I did not say that yet !

H: Ok. I apologize.

C: Now, due to the fact that the inlet power is not inlet along the same symmetry axis as the outlet power (le'ts say: the inlet torque enters along z axis where as the outlet power is recovered along Y axis), there is a symmetry break which allows violation of famous Newton's third law.

For that reason, inlet and outlet powers are completely independent of the other.

H: I just want to state for our readers who may not be aware, that the following is Newtons Third Law: "The mutual forces of action and reaction between two bodies are equal, opposite."

C: The outlet power is only dependent of the rotational potential field (the value of masses, radius and angular rotation speed) where as the inlet power depends on friction losses only influenced by the value of radial centrifugal force. And we are lucky because these friction losses are very low. It means that the ratio COE (coefficient of energy given as ratio P outlet / P inlet) is much greater than unity.

H: How high do you think the COE can go in a well engineered system?

C: According to rough calculation: 4000 to 5000.

H: I am guessing that keeping the system in a vacuum would also eliminate air drag, which would also be a loss mechanism?

C: But, because there is a but... It is not possible with such a system to control the rotation wise. Depending on starting conditions, the coupled generator can rotate either in green or red wise. It means that you are never sure of the manner to connect the phases U, W, W of a triphasis generator. But this is fully standardized in actual networks. If you connect the phasis U, V, W in France, the motor will turn clockwise !

H: So you are basically saying there are engineering issues involved in providing mechanical power to the system with an electric motor?

C: You need a little electrical motor for doing rotate the masses.

H: So are you trying to say that producing electrical power with the system is what would produce the challenges?

C: And you can produce electrical power at the outlet by coupling the engine to a crank-rod system. Watch the associated videos.

H: Thank you for sharing that concept. It sounds very exciting. To move on just a little, in the past we have discussed the concept of producing a reaction-less thrust by creating an imbalance of centrifugal force in a system. Could you elaborate on this concept and tell me why you think it is possible?

C: Modifying the length of gyration radius of a rotating mass requires energy. As soon as we bring energy to the system, it is converted into kinetic energy. It means that when the magnet will bring work by repulsing the mass inwards, the rotor will accelerate its angular speed. In the same way, when the magnet will consume work during next step, the rotor angular speed will slow down. Globally for a complete rotation, the magnet delivers a net power equal to zero and the average angular speed of the rotor is constant. It means that the radius variation is obtained without consuming or producing any work. Of course, a minimum power is needed for keeping the system into rotation. And an undirectional and unisense force is created by such a mechanism.

H: Fascinating!

C: If the created force is equal to 10,000 N, we could easily develop a power equal to several hundreds of CV.

H: Could you please define the term "CV?"

C: Sorry. Horse power (HP)

H: No problem.

C: slightly different of CV cheval-vapeur (steam horse).

H: Ok. Now, for all of this to work... Centrifugal force has to be a "real" force, and not a fictitious "pseudo-force" as mainstream science believes. What do you think is the best evidence that centrifugal force is a real force?

C: The best evidence that centrifugal force is a real force is the example of an unbalanced car wheel. One can destroy a direction train with a simple disequilibrium equal to one hundred grams.

H: Do you mean "tire hop" or "tire tramp" where an imbalanced tire can lift upwards against the suspension of a vehicle, and then crash back down again?

C: The centrifugal force is equal to : m r omega². The stresses exerted by the centrifugal force on each atom constituting the material limits the angular speed of rotating machines in a very specific value defined in the design calculations (it is called: overspeed value).

H: I have never heard of overspeed value before. Please tell us more.

C: No engineer can ignore that important strength in design calculations. Every rotating machine (generator, motor, turbine, gas turbine) has always a maximum overspeed. The safety control devices have to take into account this limitation operating value.

H: So the thrust produce by centrifugal force on an imbalanced wheel is evidence of centrifugal force, because it can technically exceed the overspeed and damage the system?

C: You can of course explode every rotor if you exceed the overspeed limit.

H: Can you think of any other proofs that show centrifugal force is real, or examples that demonstrate the reality of centrifugal force?

C: And the breaking strength of material.

H: What about a spinning bucket with water inside? The water climbs up the walls of the bucket.

C: Yes. The reason, in my opinion, why this force is called pseudo-force is due to the fact that the movement is always perpendicular to direction of force. The speed vector (we are speaking about a circular path movement) is perpendicular at each instant to gyration radius. But work can only be created when the displacement and force are aligned in same direction, W = F L cos(alpha). Alpha being the angle between the direction of force F and the direction of displacement L. If both direction are perpendicular, then cos(alpha)=0 and W (work)=0 !

H: There are multiple people who claim to have built centrifugal force systems in the past. For example, Richard Clem. Do you think their systems worked?

C: I am fully convinced that it works, and I have begun to write a theoretical study about Richard CLEM's device. And I have come to the same conclusion about Messias's engine.

H: I would like to give you the chance to talk about anything you would like. I know you have a very special device being constructed by a trusted associate. Did you want to say anything to our readers about it at this time?

C: This engine is the fruit of a long thinking work from early 2004. After several bitter defeats, a workable device has been issued at begin of year 2007 as well as the relevant theoretical study. If the idea of the concept preceded the theoretical study, it was nevertheless very important to explain the operation through the prism of official science.

H: Is there anything else you would like to share about the engine at this time? For example, what it will be capable of doing?

C: As a former engineer, I knew perfectly that theoretical explanations should be given sooner or later. After having completed the writing of the formulas in July 2007, it took another year for understanding the deep reason of overunity character of the motor. Contrarily to centrifugal motor we were discussing previously, the motor of my invention develops an infinite COE and COP. Through this study, I have been able to express the necessary and sufficient condition inherent to an overunitary character of an engine. This condition is definitely COE >1. And the condition COP> 1 is not sufficient to obtain an overunity machine (example: heat pump).

H: I wish you great success with the engine! I'm looking forward to hearing about it running.

To email Claude, you can use the following address.

His website is 

Side Notes from Bench Tops:

On the day that Hank submitted this article for publication, we were independently contacted by two separate individuals who claim to have a plausible centrifugal-force-involved technology. One of them hasn't built his design yet, due to financial constraints, and is looking for someone to build it. 

The other claims a functioning prototype that consumes 3.75 kilowatts to turn the device while powering a generator at its rated speed of 1800 rpm running 10 kW of halogen light bulbs. We're in process of validating that one.

And last week we were contacted by a long-time acquaintance that has a centrifugal device he is sure will work; and he's willing to open source his design. We're in process of collecting information to post a page about his work.

Hank himself has been mulling over a design he hopes to have built soon to prove it out.

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This story is also published at BeforeItsNews and Examiner.

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