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You are here: > News > September 7, 2011

Surviving Into Anything and HHO

Michael Riversong reports on a workshop given by Vernon Roth on July 28, 2011 at the ExtraOrdinary Technology in Albuquerque, covering the whys and wherefores of hydroxy technology, as well as how the technology can help prepare for and survive coming hard times.

by Michael Riversong
Pure Energy Systems News

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...Before the talk we had a conversation about survival. Almost everyone on this planet knows that tremendous changes are on the way, but there is no agreement as to what exactly those changes will bring about. Everything from total planetary destruction to beginning an age of high spiritual consciousness, and anything between those poles, is literally possible over the next few years. It always comes back to putting together communities for optimum survival in any environment. Vernon's work emphasizes use of equipment for the benefit of communities which offer the best chance of survival no matter what happens. Meanwhile, paradigms are shifting tremendously in many ways.

Now there are 6.6 billion people on this planet. There will be 9 billion in 40 years at present growth rates. We have to produce more food each coming year than we have in the last 8,000 put together. Presently about half the produced food is always wasted. This means we have to find a completely new paradigm for producing food. Efficient energy generation is vital to that paradigm. HHO, which is shorthand for hydrogen electrolysis, is one part of this.

One basic principle we need to understand is that usually whatever people are talking about most in the media is inconsequential. Something else more important is always happening. For example, carbon emissions are not necessarily bad. One eruption in Iceland releases more "greenhouse gases" than all of human society in a year. Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) are the real problem. So the VOC problem is a good example of something not being discussed in the media that's affecting the world greatly. Many of the technologies discussed in this workshop are of this nature.


Take a gallon of rainwater and ferment (store) it for 2-3 months.
Distill off 4 quarts
Name and label them Fire, Air, Earth, and Water. This made them into fractals. Each one was then tested:
Fire would not freeze at minus 10 degrees, and got a golden hue.
Air formed bubbles & expanded.
Earth froze at 32 degrees, and was completely clear.
Water might not freeze even at minus 100 degrees!
Then, put each one into your hydrogen.

This conference should teach us new ways of thinking and working. The experiment shows us that alchemy is alive and well. It also points out dramatically how the alchemist is part of the process.

Safety: the Art of Triple Redundancy. Hydrogen is very explosive, so always make sure any potential source of ignition in the area is under tight control. Explosions happen in labs. That's why we need to stress safety. We want to make sure all the researchers survive!

In an HHO system 10 liters per minute will form lots of bubbles. A safety valve will let the gases in the bubbler release to the atmosphere immediately. Hydrogen dissipates quickly and goes straight up. There's a flashback arrestor at the next stage which is really a secondary bubbler. Gas flows out the top to another safety device, another flashback arrestor. You can get a 2-pack for $40 at US Air. Metal is needed for these. It's an industry standard. You can also make your own flashback arrestor. Pressure switches are $16 from Allied Switch.

A column of water is important. It magnifies the power of hydrogen. You could try putting a Rodin coil around a loop with this water in it. UV light is also good to try. There are many such possibilities.

Laser refining of uranium is a common process. But we can change the nature of an element using just frequency, which makes that aspect worth exploring. This might be a key to handling radioactive waste material.

Vernon said he had been working with Internal Combustion Engines (ICEs). We can readily get a lot of improvements in mileage. But the current problem is a paradigm. It's illegal to put things on semi trucks to improve mileage. Inspectors are actually sent out when logs indicate this is happening! Increased efficiency upsets too many balances within the American trucking industry so it's discouraged.

So how do we survive cataclysmic changes in our world? Sustainable generation is definitely necessary, and so is a lot of caution. We don't have to tell the whole world about every stage of research. [Editor's Note: Don't we give in to the bullies if we let them scare us into silence? Sharing progress helps inspire and foster others to do the same, and vice versa.]

A solar tool charger from Harbor Freight can put out 20 liters / hr. It adds up over 7 hours a day. A hydrogen device can be hooked into a diesel generator and can boost such an engine.

There are some business tax incentives to refit with solar or wind, which are normally 40% but can be depreciated in 1 or 2 years. Business tax breaks essentially make solar and wind systems free. Combining conventional alternative energy systems with hydrogen generators is thus a good idea.

Some water electrolysis systems will produce Brown's Gas (BG), which indexes itself to whatever you're working on. This is a mixed form of monatomic and diatomic (double atom) hydrogen and oxygen gases which can be burned immediately for various applications, including welding or fuel. Several ways to produce it have been worked out. It may not boil water, but it can be made to. Cast iron and silica don't disintegrate in BG, but many other materials do. The reasons for this variation in disintegration are not known. To heat air you have to find a substance that won't disintegrate in BG. It doesn't burn carbon, but it does cause some emissions. Gasification releases the power within.

We can pull out 600 degrees – and heat up things like copper, carbon, etc. This blows it out into the room. It's just like what happens with welding, where you're breathing whatever you're cutting. A lot of this eventually manifests as Parkinson's Disease. Best thing to do is run exhaust through water and trap all the fumes. It's especially important to deal with sodium hydroxide which can form in many ways. If you're heating things up, use a heat exchanger for safety. With a vapor generator you're cooling down any potential explosion. BG is implosive, but that's powerful and then followed by a powerful explosion. Actually nuclear weapons work the same way. So don't ever compress Brown's Gas!

All this is connected to the fact that newer stoves are not just wood-burning – they're essentially coal gasification units.

If you add enough hydrogen and oxygen literally anything can become a fuel. You can burn it with Brown's Gas in a crucible of something that it won't destroy like cast iron. Plastics can be converted back to oil. This tech from Japan is all open source and reduces about 80% of CO2 emissions. Methane is also being released which can be profitably captured. This was found at (sponsored by Panasonic). A community never needs to throw away plastic again!

Many small biomass gasification projects are quietly being done in remote areas around the world. These technologies are key to reconstituting civilization. They're burning fuels that would normally be waste. Some good developments in the Philippines are proceeding right now, which is good because their power plants are especially inefficient.

Diesel generators are good to modify because they don't care where the spark is – they have none. Fog can be generated, run through water, and powered essentially by solar. This is not over unity, but it is running on water. Bubbling through also washes out sodium hydroxide. 

Note that number 316 stainless steel is best for metal assemblies. If you let steel get too thin, it starts flexing & thus gets undependable in terms of electrical properties – amperage goes off. At smaller sizes all parameters change. It's been found that 1/8 inch thickness tends to work better than 1/2.

After 6 months a crystalline layer can form on the metal surfaces, so you have to make sure you use the right frequencies.
If using hydrogen in a vacuum assisted unit, do not use any caustic solution. You can use a different catalyst such as colloidal silver or spring water.

Large scale industrial grade vacuum pumps have a tendency to disintegrate. This is due to hydrogen embrittlement. When all the moisture is taken out of air, it also takes out water from metals and other materials. In ordinary situations that's not a factor. With hydrogen, we have to watch out for it. Also, heavy acids or alkali will impede the process. There is a level of energy density we have to acknowledge.

Hydrogen and oxygen can also be used to create artificial gems of extremely high quality. That opens up a whole different area of research related to this technology.

The indexing nature of Brown's Gas allows us to get more heat for input than normal. Hydrogen in general and BG solves many problems of power generation and industry. By connecting our systems we can minimize power and time use.

Hydrogen is a key to financial independence. Without selling technology or disrupting the dominant paradigm we can use a nearly free energy system to fuel our lives and overcome any limitation. Hydrogen is an interim technology, which can get us to running on universal ether. We can then mine water for our materials. The final step is to jump feet first into our future. It really comes down to trying it as you ask: "How do you survive into anything?"

Recommended videos: Open Source Civilization, from Missouri. With these blueprints, we can build up a community that's not going to be dependent on the rest of the world, producing 50 machines that are essential to the world. Detailed plans for each of these machines are being provided. There are several web sources now, including forums, videos, and Polish immigrant Marcin Jakubowski is the main person promoting this idea. Civilization is a never ending cycle of expansion and contraction.

Those who do not adopt a new paradigm will collapse. America has gone through several expansions. We became an industrial based society. Then we had an expansion of ideas in the 60s & 70s. We are in the process of an expansion of technology right now. But you can't eat your iPod. We must adopt a new paradigm or find another way of survival.

Types of expansion: 

political, which means running communities
religious, which means tolerance
sociological, which means forming community structures
Adaptation is the key to all survival:

We can adjust – personal ease and comfort is much less important than how we behave.

Video of this workshop is available through: 

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This story is also published at BeforeItsNews. 


On September 12, 2011, Michael Riversong wrote:

Subject: Note on Editor's Note

One of the things that historically created a lot of bad will against the Tesla research community was premature release of research results. This has consistently given bullies, skeptics, and opponents ammunition to use against us. In many cases it's turned out that news of intermediate process steps has no real value to anyone. It can become annoying, especially when there isn't a working product to demonstrate yet.

By carefully timing the release of research results, we can better control public perceptions. We should pick our battles, choose the ground where we fight, and manage publicity for maximum effect. These are ancient considerations of strategy which can be found in "The Art of War" by Sun Tzu.

So, in the context that Vernon was speaking from, he's essentially advocating that we pay attention to these factors when making our public releases. Successful businesses and nonprofits do this all the time. It makes sense.

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