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You are here: > News > March 24, 2011

Andrea Rossi with Sterling Allan on Coast to Coast AM

On the evening of March 23rd, Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the Energy Catalyzer (a 10 kW cold fusion reactor going commercial), joined Sterling Allan on Coast to Coast AM with host George Noory. Coincidentally, it took place on the twenty second anniversary of Pons and Fleishman's legendary announcement!

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Image featured on Coast to Coast AM home page March 23-24.  Then, on March 25, it was listed under "featured" on their home page.
See Transcript.


by Hank Mills, with Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News

Coast to Coast AM has for many years served as an avenue for the release of information and ideas which may not always, "fit neatly inside of a box", covering things such as UFOs, ghosts, paranormal, conspiracies, alternative healing and energy. They are on some 500 radio stations and have around 3 million listeners each week, making them the world's largest nighttime talk show and among the largest shows compared to daytime audiences. 

On the evening of March 23rd, Sterling Allan, CEO of PES Network, Inc., had an opportunity to appear on the show to discuss the latest exotic energy technologies. It was his second time on the show, the first having been a couple of years ago. This time around Andrea Rossi (the inventor of the Cold Fusion Energy Catalyzer) joined the conversation to answer questions about his game changing product. 

The splash page at Coast to Coast for this segment reads:

In the second half, researcher Sterling D. Allan introduced some amazing free & alternative energy technologies which could have the potential to eliminate the need for oil, nuclear, and other polluting energy sources. The days of the old energy monopolies are numbered, he said, adding that "it's time for free energy to emerge," empowering the people in a new revolution.

A variety of promising solutions are making their way to market. Andrea Rossi, joined the program for a segment , to talk about his 10 kilowatt cold fusion device, which is clean, inexpensive, and though it involves a nuclear reaction, creates no radioactive waste. In the short term, his device will be offered in industrial use, for heat and power, he reported. Allan also mentioned other exciting developments including PlasmERG's Noble Gas Engine, which runs on fuel that would only cost a few dollars a month, and Aviso Technologies out of the Philippines, which uses Tesla-like circuitry.

Immediately upon the segment starting, Sterling pointed out that the show was taking place on the 22nd anniversary of Pons and Fleischmann's public announcement of their cold fusion results. This is very interesting, because the upcoming guest Andrea Rossi has produced a commercially ready cold fusion technology that is approaching launch this October. What an auspicious coincidence! 

During the first portion of the show, Sterling spent some time describing Andrea Rossi's cold fusion or LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reaction) technology. He explained to George how the system combines very fine nickel powder, hydrogen gas, pressure, and heat to produce nuclear reactions. The result is a large production of energy (a minimum of 10 kilowatts of constant thermal output) from a reactor vessel the size of one liter. Additional details of the technology were also discussed. 

Sterling also took a moment to discuss the one-year research program on the Energy Catalyzer that is taking place at the University of Bologna. (Ref.) It is very interesting that this research program has begun at arguably the world's oldest continually operating university (there are some continuously-running Muslim higher-learning schools that predate it by about 500 years). This program will focus on understanding more about the reactions taking place inside the reactor. At the end of the one year, the results will be formally posted. But hopefully before then, some details will be shared with the public.

As the interview continued, George asked Sterling what other emerging technologies are especially impressive. Sterling responded by expressing how there are not just a couple, but several impressive energy innovations he is following. There are so many it can be difficult to keep track of them all! One such device is the Plasma ERG noble gas engine, that utilizes inert gases in a plasma process to fire pistons. 

Another example is the "Alpha Omega Galaxy Freefall Generator" which produces power by harnessing the force of gravity and centrifugal force. He said just that day he had seen photos and a video of some advanced prototypes being built, including a production prototype.

Sterling also talked about Frederick Well's water fuel cell technology that enables a vehicle to run on water, or various ratios of fuel-to-hydroxy.  Wells had given Sterling permission to mention that he aims to have 230,000 units available for purchase by June.  Sterling said that the water-as-fuel research world was teaming with researchers figuring out ways to harness zero point energy or some kind of external energy in the process of electrolyzing water into hydrogen and oxygen.

"We're talking technologies so cheap and simple that they could be built at the local mechanic's shop," Sterling said, urging the audience to envision that being done through cottage industries worldwide; and what that could do for the World economy, as well as removing our dependence on polluting fuel sources and a central control. "We're talking an energy revolution, urging people to rise up against the corrupt powers that be by supporting the emergence of free energy technologies."

Sterling pointed out that while all industries, on average, spend three percent of their budget on research and development; with the shining example being the communications industry, which spends 25% of their budget on R&D, cranking out an amazing array of very helpful devices; the energy industry spends a paltry 0.3% on R&D. "They probably spend at least this much on suppression of competing technologies," Sterling quipped.

Andrea Rossi Interview

After the first break at the bottom of the hour, George brought Andrea Rossi into the conversation. Welcoming him to the show, George asked Andrea for a bit of information about the system. Andrea Rossi responded by stating the device is a module that produces about ten kilowatts of power. It works by using nickel and hydrogen to release more energy than is consumed. He also stated that he prefers not to refer to it as a "cold fusion" device, but as a device that produces, "Low Energy Nuclear Reactions." 

Rossi mentioned how the first applications will be industrial, because of the various certifications and authorizations that would be required to install a unit in a home. He continued to describe the technology and gave some information about the costs involved. A one megawatt power plant would cost approximately two million dollars, using the figure of two thousand dollars per kilowatt of capacity installed. The energy produced would cost approximately one cent per kilowatt-hour – nearly four times cheaper than some of the cheapest energy worldwide at present. Most likely, this is not the actual manufacturing cost of the equipment and energy produced. That would probably be far less due to the simplicity of the technology, cheap fuel, and large amount of energy released. I expect these numbers are what his company plans to charge to install plants and for the electricity they produce. 

Andrea Rossi also described how he had sold a former business and everything he had to pay for the development of this technology, coming to several million dollars. He said he has used up all of his financial resources on the project, which George found very noble and remarkable. Also, Andrea explained that no one was taking a financial risk but himself. "No one will pay a single cent for plants we build until they are proven to work and energy is produced."

What will be of interest to many within the LENR community is that Andrea released a few tidbits of technical information. He stated the nickel powder used as fuel costs about 20 dollars a kilogram. However, they process it in a very special way requiring delicate equipment. The employee who works to process the nickel powder is actually 96 years old. Rossi is 60 years old and the fact his associate is still "the best man for the job" at such an advanced age gives him hope for another 36 years of productivity!

One more piece of technical information is that Andrea Rossi gave a figure for hydrogen consumption. He stated the system consumes approximately one gram of hydrogen per day. This is approximately 11.2 liters of hydrogen gas at standard air pressure and temperature. The amount of hydrogen needed to produce 10 kW of thermal energy for 24 hours would be thousands upon thousands of liters.

The segment with Andrea lasted about 20 minutes, filling the second of four segments in the two hour portion of the show, with commercials and news at the top and bottom of each hour. It was a great show and he first radio or television interview with Andrea Rossi in the United States.

The interview with Andrea was nearly scrapped prior to the show, due to a miscommunication about his level of ability to speak and understand English. They have had bad experiences in the past, described as a "train wreck" with guests who can't adequately understand or speak English. But after getting on the phone with Andrea, producer Tom Danheiser was put at ease, and reversed the decision they had made to scrap having him on. As George bid Andrea farewell, it was clear that he had enjoyed having him on the show.

Aviso's Tesla Technology

The second half of the show was mostly taking callers' questions, but Sterling was able to take a few minutes to talk about the work of Philippine inventor Ismael Aviso who is developing multiple technologies that capture energy from the ambient environment, enabling electric vehicles to go endlessly without stopping to recharge or fuel; and enabling a home power system that could run continuously, and potentially providing high-power base-load generation on the utility scale. His electric vehicle setup, in which his onboard antenna circuit keeps the 12-volt battery charged that runs a 11-kW DC motor, was validated by the Philippine Department of Energy last month. Sterling said that Ismael is considering open sourcing the technology, which would allow for rapid release of plans and kits to enable people to convert their vehicles; whereas if he goes the route of additional investors that they will want him to keep it quiet, and it will take 2-3 years to go through the steps of research and development, optimization, testing, and certification; and he doesn't think the planet has the luxury of waiting that long for a technology that could make this big of a difference. He therefore is pushing for the alternative of a fund drive to raise the $5 million he'll need to get to the point of being able to manufacture the kit components in high volume.

Donations can be made on Ismael's website,, that was just posted yesterday by a crew of supporters living in the Philippines.

"Consider it an act of resistance to the intentional take-down of society by the corrupt powers that be, which David Icke talked about in the first half of tonight's show," Sterling said. He urged Coast listeners to help promote these emerging free energy technologies to become a meme (thematic talking point) in the alternative world, among the favorite alternative media outlets. He said we don't have to just hunker down while the dark elements wipe out free civilization; we can take a very active part in seeing these energy technologies emerge, which empower the individual and liberate them from their dependence on the corrupt central powers. 

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Click here to contribute to encourage Ismael to open source his technology.

This story is also published at BeforeItsNews.

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Coast to Coast Recording

The March 23 show is posted (playlist) at YouTube by user akcijak.

Part 7/12 (beginning of Sterling's segment)
Part 8/12 (misc. free energy; introduce Andrea Rossi)
Part 9/12 (Andrea Rossi continued)
Part 10/12 (top second hour; how Sterling got into Free Energy; Aviso self-running EV)
Part 11/12 (Aviso part II)
Part 12/12 (mentions New Energy Movement)


Click here for a transcript of the interview.

Postscript Thoughts

Here's a video from the March 24 Smart Scarecrow show in which Sterling gives a recap of the previous night's interview on Coast to Coast.  It starts at time stamp 12:27.

Previous Coverage


Other PES Coverage

PESN Coverage of E-Cat

For a more exhaustive listing, see News:Rossi_Cold_Fusion | Mainstream | News:Cold_Fusion  


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