Mylow gets all-magnet-motor running using off-the-shelf parts
Since Saturday, Mylow has been posting a series of instructional videos
to show how to replicate his motor using readily-available parts. Tuesday
evening he got it spinning with just one set of six magnets on the
rotor. The replication race will heat up for sure. Who will be
For his two stator magnets, Mylow is
using the HS811N from AllMagnetics.com
(ask for Felix and use promotion code: "PES" for a
discount; also known as 07270 from TheMagnetSource.com)
For his rotor magnets, Mylow uses
part CB-65 from AllMagnetics.com
(ask for Felix and use promotion code: "PES" for a
discount; also known as 07043 from TheMagnetSource.com,
available from Home Depot [quite a bit more expensive there]).
He did it!
Mylow got his next iteration of his all-magnet motor running -- using only one
set of six magnets on the rotor -- something modern physics would say is
"impossible," just as a century ago they said powered human flight was
-- something the Wright Brothers didn't let
stop them, any more than the rules of science have stopped Mylow from
successfully replicating what Howard Johnson -- his hero -- is said to have
accomplished back in 1978, receiving several patents for his design.
What is remarkable about this version is that it uses magnets readily available in
the marketplace today, as described in the plans
we've posted and have updated. (See magnet specs in right column.)
In all his previous working motors, the components he was using were not
readily available. The 1/2 x 1/2 x 2-inch bar magnets he was using, for example, are ones he
picked up thirty years ago from Radio Shack, who long ago stopped carrying them.
And in the Stonehenge version that preceded the bar-magnet motor version, his
rotor magnets came from Science and Surplus in Chicago, and are no longer
available. This has made replicating his effect more difficult than we
would have thought.
Because other people don't seem to have the same gift he has to get the spacing
right on a new set of magnets, no one else has been able yet to replicate his
effect since he first started posting videos on March
17; and he's posted around seven different videos showing his motor turning from
a stop, accelerating, then reaching an equilibrium speed. Most recently,
he posted two videos 
showing his bar-magnet motor running on top of a glass table.
Graphs of the rotation speed of his recent
bar magnet motor show an initial acceleration followed by reaching a
steady equilibrium speed. The departures in the graph are from
camera movement and change of camera angle. (more)
But despite all that evidence, the replicators have been frustrated in their
attempts to copy what he's been sharing openly, because they've not been working
with the same set of tools.
However, that will be changing because not only are the
magnets in his most recent version readily available, but there are quite a few
people trying to replicate this who already have those very magnets. All
they need is a photo or video to see how Mylow arranged his magnets, so they can
get a template, and they will be good to go. I wouldn't be surprised if by
this time tomorrow night there are a dozen successful replications from around
the planet (crossing fingers).
This is a very exciting time for this project that has been quite a saga.
He told me on the phone last night that the one set of magnets pull by the
stator magnets with a pull of around two pounds, which is enough to turn the
rotor into the next set of five magnets, which also pull by the stator,
resulting in a gradual acceleration of the motor.
He said the spacing between the bottom of the stator magnets and the top of the
rotor magnets is 3/4 inch.
He tried to upload the video he shot of this last night, but YouTube was on
maintenance. Meanwhile, we couldn't help but wonder if maybe he wasn't
just seeing some really good bearing action. I know when I played with the
assembly before (made by "Bob"), I saw some pretty remarkable
things which ended up being artifacts of the bearings and gravity. In fact
early this morning, I woke up to see if Mylow had posted a video yet, and it
occurred to me to post a video
I shot back on April 27, to illustrate this phenomenon.
However, when I talked to Mylow this morning, it was clear from his description
that he definitely has achieved acceleration with just 6 magnets. He said after
he had affixed four magnets, he started noticing something "weird", and with
just five magnets, they pulled in, then thrust past the stator, and made it all the way around to do it again. With six magnets, it was accelerating until the assembly was shaking to the point that he stopped it lest it be damaged or fall apart.
He told me it kind of has him freaked out, and he's hesitant to post a video showing
this effect. He's concerned about the ramifications of this hitting the planet and the disruption it might cause.
"When you see this thing running, it changes your life." I reminded him that whenever a new technology is introduced, there will be some down sides, but that the benefits outweigh the potential problems. Every car that is sold carries with it the possibility of killing its occupants. But the benefits of transportation far outweigh the potential risks.
He's also concerned about his personal life. He enjoys his simple life, and doesn't necessarily savor the idea of being thrust into the limelight.
He thinks of all those guys who have been working on things like this over the years, but to no avail. I would think they would be grateful to see something actually working, vindicating what they were pursuing. Yes, there might be some jealously, wishing they had been first, but overall there will a sense of collective accomplishment, and a thrill for the future as this technology is characterized, optimized, and implemented into practical embodiments.
The primary key, as he sees it, is non-symmetry of spacing. He urges people to not space things identically, because that will not work.
Regarding his wobbling, I suggested that he put a counterbalance, like he had in some of his earlier discs (Feb.) so that the rotation runs smoothly rather than out of balance.
Hopefully, by the end of the day we'll see a video of this 6-magnet rotor
At around 5:30 pm Central, Mylow told me that he and his twin brother, Tony posted a video showing
the six bar magnet motor spinning. Tony, who is an engineer, has been a
heavy skeptic on this project, but now is obviously convinced. He and
Mylow pose in front of the spinning motor.
After pushing the rotor magnets past an initial cog, they show the rotor pulling past the stator magnets with enough force to spin around and push through again, then again, picking up speed with each turn, before reaching an equilibrium speed.
The above video is a back-up
copy we made at YouTube. Click
here for the link to the original that Mylow posted. He said
the next step for him will be to add more magnets to the disc.
Here is the rotation
analysis that LightRider did, showing that indeed acceleration was
achieved. The sporadic data points are from camera motion.
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Isaac Azimov and science vs. bumblebee flying reference
On May 14, 2009 10:35 AM Mountain, SGZ of Casa Grande Arizona wrote:
I read in an article by Isaac Asimov where he mentioned that the bumblebee not being able to fly idea came about because scientists at first assumed that their wings did not bend.
Later, high speed photography was able to show that bumblebee wings do indeed flex quite a bit. Asimovs point was that the whole idea that scientists still believe that bumblebees cant fly was a myth. Clearly they can fly. Scientists just used that fact that their model could not predict that bumblebees fly as a reason to go back and check their model.
I dont think that any modern aerodynamic engineer would say that their current models would not allow bumblebees to fly.
You are better off using this comparison in the past tense, like people thought the world was flat, or people said powered flight was impossible. Dont imply that modern science --as if that were a single entity-- believes something they no longer believe in. Thats when you leave yourself open to criticism of misrepresentation of the truth.
"It is harder to crack a prejudice than an atom." // "I'd rather be an optimist and a fool than a pessimist and
right." -- Albert Einstein
ADVISORY: With any
technology, you take a high risk to invest significant time or money
unless (1) independent testing has thoroughly corroborated the
technology, (2) the group involved has intellectual rights to the
technology, and (3) the group has the ability to make a success of
truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
"When you're one step ahead
of the crowd you're a genius.
When you're two steps ahead,
you're a crackpot."