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Running Magnet Motors Witnessed

Four of twenty New Energy Congress members who responded to a week-long poll said they had personally witnessed a magnet motor in operation in which magnets were the only motive force.

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If you vote more than once on this poll, your vote will be canceled.
INTERIM TALLY: When this public poll commenced, on Sept. 28, 2007, the tally lingered at around 20% "Yes"; but more recently the tally is 28% yes, as of Feb. 20, 2008, 9:00 am, 1301 votes have been registered, with 363 responding "Yes".

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Sept. 28 - Oct. 12:  2 yes (4%), 49 no; 

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by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
Copyright © 2007

Have you ever seen a magnet motor in operation?  By "magnet motor", I mean a motor in which magnets are the only driving force.  Maybe its via magnets repelling magnets, or attracting, or both; and the result is continuous rotation.

Four of twenty New Energy Congress members who responded to an anonymous poll this past week said they had.  One out of every five -- twenty percent -- of those who answered the poll have personally seen a magnet motor in operation.  I wasn't one of them.

Conventional physics says that it is "impossible" for magnets to provide a primary energy source. Yet thousands of researchers worldwide have been pursuing the task of building a working magnet motor. Many claim to have achieved this objective. Most of those are quiet about their accomplishment.  None have reached the marketplace.

Science tends to lag behind inventors who don't know what is or is not possible, revising their laws to fit the new observations.  If magnet motors really are possible, scientists will no doubt figure out where the energy is coming from, whether it is from the Zero Point, or from some new principle of magnetism hitherto not appreciated.

The Steorn "Orbo" is allegedly one such motor, which was supposed to have been debuted for the world to see on July 4, 2007, but it ran into problems, and instead the world saw a gizmo not running. (Ref.)

Meanwhile, millions have seen a video of what appears to be a running magnet motor -- the Perendev, originally coined from the phrase "perpetual energy device," but later changed to the more politically correct, "permanent energy device". (Ref.1, ref.2, ref.3)

Myself (left) with Mike Brady, assembling his Perendev magnet motor.

I happen to have been involved in that motor.  I helped assemble it in Johannesburg in December of 2002 when it came from the machine shop, but we couldn't get it to run during the week that we were there.  The video was produced a couple of months later by the inventor, Mike Brady; and I was given permission to publish it in Aug. 2004 prior to a German television debut that was supposed to take place but which never materialized.  (Ref.)

We had our mechanical engineer associate, Douglas K. Furr build a 1/4-scale replica of the Perendev design, with Brady's permission, but were not able to get it running.  For some reason, often when people see a video that has been posted of that motor, they think it is a functioning device, even though the video shows me spinning and stopping the shaft with my hand, and I state that we've not been able to get it to run on its own.  I guess their thinking it is a functioning magnet motor is due to a wishful thinking syndrome or something.

In all this time, I've heard of a lot of claims to working magnet motors, some of which seem credible, but I've never personally witnessed one running.

I've also surrounded myself with a lot of experienced people in the field who are open minded but who require proof.  I founded the New Energy Congress a couple of years ago in order to review the various exotic clean energy technology claims and then rank them according to a set of the criteria including renewable, affordable, credible, and safe.  We compile these in a Top 100 Clean Energy Technologies listing.

Then a couple of weeks ago, when I was consulting John Dunlap, an entrepreneur who wanted to advance magnet motor technology, I was embarrassed when I couldn't answer whether or not any of the approximate forty NEC members had personally witnessed a magnet motor running.  I could answer for myself, but I couldn't answer for them.

So on Sept. 19, I wrote to the NEC:

"Have any of you members of the NEC seen a magnet motor in operation in person?
"By 'magnet motor' I'm referring to motors that run only on magnets, with no other motive force. A separate question would be whether you were able to confirm that the magnets were not diminishing in gauss in the process of providing rotational power, but my present primary question is more broad, relating to a magnet-only-powered motor.

"It seems like maybe one or two of you have witness one in person, but I can't recall who or what. I've heard of some 20 - 25 different claims to working magnet motors that seemed possibly credible, but have never seen one in person.
"My second question would be, if you have seen one in operation, would you be willing to go on record as having done so?

"Since it is possible that if you have seen one, you are under NDA not to disclose that, I've created an anonymous poll"

The wording of the poll was simple:

"Have you seen a magnet motor in operation in person? 'Magnet motor' = a motor that run only on magnets, with no other motive force."

Two members of the congress came forward in the private NEC forum to discuss their experiences.

One said that he had not yet confirmed that the magnets were not diminishing over time, and that he was under NDA from giving any details, but that he was very encouraged by what he had seen. Formerly, he was among the skeptics who did not think that such a motor could be built.

The 20% affirmative response by the NEC members is not representative of the public at large, inasmuch as the NEC is composed of people who pursue exotic energy technology.

A follow-up poll has been prepared for the general public (posted above).  I've also created a poll (Sept. 29 - Oct. 12) for the fe_updates newsletter group who received my email notices of the daily news items.  That group is more likely to have results resembling those of the NEC, than of the public in general.  Also, the general poll above is not going to be a true reflection of the general populace inasmuch as people who come to this news page in the first place are likely to be an unusual set to begin with.

I also plan to follow this NEC poll up with additional polls of the NEC about some of the other exotic technologies we cover, such as electromagnetic overunity, electrolysis overunity, gravity wheels, and cold fusion.

Though such such polls are not the same as a scientifically sound validation using calibrated measurement tools, video documentation, and other data collection, it does help increase the hope factor for these technologies that science rebuffs -- as they did human flight, among other things they said were "impossible."

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Page composed by Sterling D. Allan September 28, 2007
Last updated November 21, 2014





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