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Steven Jones replica: Pons & Fleischmann XS Heat not from fusion

Jones is experimenting with a bell electrode setup that strongly evidences excess (xs) energy and has similarities to the cell presented by Pons and Fleischmann. He says that there are at least two distinct phenomena in these experiments and that "fusion" is not what most of these "CF" or "LENR" types of arrangements exhibit.

by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News

When I was visiting with Professor Emeritus, Steven E. Jones for three hours the other day (talking mainly about 9/11 -- story pending), he told me about some present work he's involved with in what colloquially is called "cold fusion."

Jones is experimenting with a bell electrode setup that provides strong evidence for excess (xs) energy and has similarities to the cell presented by Pons and Fleischmann (P&F). He is the person who used the term "cold fusion" (relating to muon-catalyzed fusion) in a Scientific American article of July 1987, long before the announcement of P&F. 

Muon-catalyzed fusion is a strange phenomenon of nature that at least until now has not shown significant promise for producing useful energy. Jones published several papers on the subject (including in the journals Nature and Physical Review Letters) before moving on to focus on metal-enhanced fusion, which is now called "cold fusion" (CF) by many. 

He says that "fusion" is not what most of these "CF" or "LENR" types of arrangements exhibit. He says: 

"Setting the muon-catalyzed effect to one side, there are at least two distinct phenomena going on here with metals, which can be confusing until we use experiments to sort this all out. First, there is a confirmed and published effect showing products of d-d [deuterium-deuterium] fusion at low levels. This is true 'cold fusion' with metals enhancing the d-d-fusion rate. I show confirming data and provide half a dozen references in my slides. This small nuclear effect is now 100% repeatable, when the metals are properly prepared.

"Then there is the excess heat observed in some experiments, properly called 'anomalous excess heat' since we don't really know where that energy is coming from. I consider the anomalous xs heat to be real but a separate phenomenon from the small enhanced fusion-effect in metals. So far, the anomalous xs heat effect is not 100% reproducible."

Since the days of P&F's announcement of excess heat in electrolytic cells due to fusion and up to the present time, Jones has adamantly stated that the P&F reactions, while producing excess heat, are not due to fusion. He strongly recommended to them that they not use the term "fusion" to describe what they were observing; and near the end of his life, Fleischmann concurred that "fusion" was not the appropriate descriptor.

The problem with calling it "fusion" when it is not, is that scientists expect for it to display the known characteristics of fusion, and these have been largely absent from such reactions. This is one of the reasons the field has fallen into disrepute.

Jones even argues that a lot of the processes that are being called "LENR" (for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) are probably not even nuclear, even though they produce excess heat.

Until we know where the excess energy is coming from, or exactly how, for now he proposes the term "Freedom Energy" or simply "anomalous xs heat", avoiding the politically charged phrase "free energy." He says, 

"To say that the anomalous xs heat effect is nuclear in origin requires finding nuclear products that arise at the same time and in the same quantities, correlating with the xs heat. Otherwise, one cannot definitively say that the xs heat is nuclear in origin. It is better to say it is 'anomalous', for now, until experiments clearly determine the origin of the xs heat phenomenon."

Drawing from the work of another scientist, Peter Davey, from New Zealand back in the 1940's, earlier this year, Jones built a bell-shaped electrode apparatus, by which Davey claimed to have achieved a COP (coefficient of performance) of several times more heat out than was put in to the system, deriving its excess energy from the surroundings. Jones argues that this is evidently a variation of the P&F apparatus, but that Davey found xs heat in his apparatus in the 1940's, long before P&F.

He was recently invited to give a lecture at the University of Missouri about his theory and experimental work. Below is an email he sent regarding that, along with the PowerPoint presentation he provided.

Gary Hendershot plans to have Jones on his SmartScarecrow show on December 20 to give his PowerPoint presentation.

What causes the anomalous excess heat? An hypothesis (21 Mb pdf) PowerPoint 

From: Steven Jones 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 4:15 PM [GMT-7]
Subject: Slides (with minor edits) from Seminar given at Univ of Missouri, 25 Oct 2012


Scientists at the University of Missouri invited me to give a seminar and also provided a tour of their lab, where they are doing related experiments. I'm excited about this, and even if my hypothesis turns out to be incorrect, the research is proceeding well!

I wish to re-emphasize that I find data for anomalous excess heat (without evidence for commensurate fusion products) to be compelling at this time. Back in 1989, I tried repeatedly to get P&F to drop their claim that the "excess heat" was due to d-d fusion, to no avail at the time. In fact, my insistence on this point -- that it was NOT d-d fusion, earned me some enemies it seems.

In recent years, many if not most researchers in the field have come to share this view (it's not d-d cold fusion, but something else!). Even Fleischman admitted it was not d-d fusion, before his passing.

Here I raise an hypothesis to account for the "anomalous excess heat" -- an idea that (evidently) none of the Univ of Missouri researchers had heard of before...

Best wishes,
Steven Jones
Emeritus etc

PS -- Slides from the Naval Research Lab which I cited are publicly available from the ICCF-17, Aug 2012, conference in Korea, here:


talk WEA1-2 (Dominguez et al.)

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