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Rossi Tells Florida Bureau He Has No U.S. Factory, No Nuclear Reactions
An inspector from the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control said that
Rossi told him "No nuclear reactions occur during the process;" and
"There are no radiation readings above background when the device is in
operation;" and "Currently all production, distribution and use of
these devices is overseas."
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Here is an Google satellite view (see red
"A" half way up and 2/3 to the right) of the condo listed as
Leonardo Corporation's headquarters at 1351 Lincoln Rd., Suite 505, Miami Beach, Florida.
Street view shows them to be apartment housing, not office complexes.
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By Sterling
D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
Yesterday, the New Energy Times published the following statement
regarding
Andrea Rossi and his E-Cat:
Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the Energy Catalyzer, told an inspector from
the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control that he has no factory in the United
States and that no nuclear reactions occur in his devices.
Rossi's statements contradict nearly everything he has said in the last
year about his claims of a factory and his development of a low-energy
nuclear reaction device.
Rossi told the bureau that his device produces thermal energy of six times
the electrical energy input. However, for the last several years, Rossi
claimed nuclear reactions occur in his device.
The bureau responded to a citizen's complaint, made by Gary Wright of Las
Vegas, in February. New Energy Times obtained the report from this
blog. Wright was concerned that Rossi's device had failed proper nuclear
certifications or, if not, that Rossi was committing fraud.
I looked through the very lengthy report
surrounding that complaint and follow-up. It contains a detailed review of
Andrea Rossi's claims and dealings with the E-Cat, as well as some of his
previous work with biofuel and waste to energy. It documents extensively the
fact that 1) Andrea Rossi has been claiming nuclear events in his E-Cat process,
and 2) Andrea Rossi has been claiming the establishment of U.S. manufacturing.
An inspector from the Florida Bureau of Radiation Control, Jim Stokes, met
with Rossi in Rossi's Miami apartment on Feb. 29, 2012. Here is the concluding
text from his report that is included in the aforementioned collection,
along with official insignia:
"I spoke with [Mr.] Rossi concerning the construction and operation of
his E-Cat device. He stated the active ingredients are powdered nickel and a
tablet containing a compound which releases hydrogen gas during the process.
[Rossi states that] the output thermal energy is six times the electrical
energy input. He acknowledged that no nuclear reactions occur during the
process and that only low-energy photons in the energy range of 50 to 100 KeV
occur within the device. There are no radiation readings above background when
the device is in operation. Since the device is not a reactor, the [Nuclear
Regulatory Commission] does not have jurisdiction. Since there [are] no
radioactive materials used in the construction and no radioactive waste
generated by it, the state of Florida Bureau of Radiation Control has no
jurisdiction. [Rossi states that] currently all production, distribution and
use of these devices is overseas. [Rossi states that he] has arranged to meet
with Underwriters Laboratories (UL) to seek approval for manufacture in the
United States. I thanked [Mr.] Rossi for his time meeting with me."
Let me enumerate some of the most obvious contradictions by Rossi:
- "No nuclear reactions occur during the process." This
contradicts his earlier claims, and it contradicts what other researchers
are finding and reporting in similar set-ups. If he was not lying to Jim
Stokes, then he has been lying to all the rest of us. Reference: Replicators
(as of January 12, 2012) - An annotated and linked list of reports of 14
people who have achieved a Ni + H reaction. (NickelPower)
- "There are no radiation readings above background when the device is
in operation." This contradicts earlier claims, and it contradicts what
other researchers are finding and reporting in similar set-ups. Such a
measurement is a key signal that the technology is nuclear, and valid as
claimed. When I was at the October 28, 2011 test in Bologna, I talked to the
guy making background radiation readings for the test, and he said that
gamma radiation had been measured more than a year ago from the E-Cat when
Rossi still allowed the reactor to be open. Since then, it has been shielded,
and no radiation has been detected coming from the unit during operation.
Defkalion's 3rd party testing presently under way in Greece includes the
detection of gamma radiation as evidence of the nuclear events taking place.
Maybe according to Stokes, gamma radiation doesn't count as
"nuclear". At least from a regulatory point of view, it is
essentially benign at low levels.
- "Currently all production, distribution and use of these devices is
overseas." This contradicts Rossi's public claims of establishing
manufacturing in the US; and it contradicts his claims of the technology
being tested by UL (a US company), mentioned in the next sentence. How could they test it
if they are not "using" it? Considering his intention to
manufacture in the U.S., if indeed nothing is happening yet (which is not
how he has portrayed this publicly), he should have replied, "Not yet,
but let's stay in touch."
Anyone who has been following the E-Cat saga can see how blatant these
contradictions are that Rossi made to Jim Stokes compared to what he has said to
all of us over the past year.
For example, in his March 2 interview
with Ruby Carat of Cold Fusion Now (after his meeting with Stokes) he
said:
"The robotized line is already under construction. The factory will be in the United States of America, the E-Cat will be a Made In The USA product, both in the industrial and the domestic
version."
If he was trying to get out of having to come into compliance with nuclear
regulations, that seems unethical. Anyone dealing with nuclear processes needs
to jump through the necessary hoops to be legal and to assure the customer that
they are safe. Because the gamma radiation is so low, and can be shielded
easily, it shouldn't be that difficult to jump through the needed hoops. I can't
fathom that he was just being lazy and hadn't even considered this before Jim
Stokes showed up. He should have been able to say, "Here are the measures
we have taken so far."
These contradictions remind me of when he gave me permission to post http://Leonardo-ECat.com
as his official site on 11.11.11, then later that day started telling people
that he never authorized the site. I have a recording of the Skype conversation
in which he gave me that authorization. Despite what you think about how
adequate the site I prepared was, he loved it, and gave his thumbs up the
morning I announced it. Then when negative comments started coming in, he
publicly said he never approved it.
Not only does he seem to change his story to suit his purposes and present
circumstances, but he also seems to think nothing about
backstabbing people who are genuinely trying to help him. I'm not the only
victim and witness to that behavior. It seems to be his modus operandi with many
of the people he works with, from what I can tell through the various conversations
I've had with multiple people. He is not a team player.
He deserves credit as a pioneer in the Ni-H LENR field, but I don't have high
expectations about his ability to pull off a successful launch of a company that
will introduce this product to the market. These attributes of misrepresenting
himself and backstabbing are not only show-stoppers but are also detrimental to
the LENR field as a whole.
I'm taking the E-Cat out of our Top
5 and am dropping it low among the runners up. I've also added this to the Buyer's
Beware page. He may still surprise us and end up pulling something off, but I don't think it
is likely.
I apologize to anyone that I've encouraged to try and do business with Andrea
Rossi, and I retract my endorsement. At the same time, I hope, for the sake of
the planet, that someone might come along who is able to interface with Rossi
and help him make some important course corrections and clean up his act and
pull off a successful introduction of cold fusion technology to the marketplace.
Statement from Rossi
From http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=580&cpage=9
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and Examiner.
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PESN Coverage of E-Cat
For a more exhaustive listing, see News:Rossi_Cold_Fusion
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 22, 2012
(PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 15, 2012
(PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 8, 2012
(PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 1, 2012
(PESN)
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LENR-to-Market
Weekly -- October 25, 2012
(PESN)
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LENR-to-Market
Weekly -- October 18, 2012
(PESN)
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Andrea Rossi's Black Box -- by Popular Science (PESN; October 16,
2012)
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Penon High-Temperature E-Cat Test Results Posted (PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- October 11, 2012 (PESN)
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LENR-to-Market
Weekly -- October 4, 2012 (PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- September 27, 2012 (PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- September 20, 2012 (PESN)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- September 13, 2012 (PESN)
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2012 E-Cat Conference Report: 1 MW E-Cat Ready (PESN; September
11, 2012)
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September 9: Andrea Rossi Q&A, Panel Discussion, Interview
(PESN; September
10, 2012)
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Rossi
Gives Third-Party Test Results from Hot Cat
(PESN; September
9, 2012)
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LENR-to-Market
Weekly -- September 6, 2012 (PESN; September 6, 2012)
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2012
E-Cat Conference in Zurich (PESWiki;
August 31, 2012)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 30, 2012 (PESN)
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A Barrel of a Hundred High Temperature E-Cats (PESN;
August 30, 2012)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 23, 2012 (PESN)
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Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed (PESN;
August 22, 2012)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 16, 2012 (PESN)
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Details Provided
about Hot Cat Test Data Leaker (PESN;
August 13, 2012)
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Stunning Third Party E-Cat Test Report Details Leaked During NIWeek (PESN;
August 11, 2012)
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LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 9, 2012 (PESN)
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Mainstream Coverage of Fleischmann's Death Mentions Nothing of Technology Nearing Marketplace (PESN;
August 8, 2012)
MORE...
See also
Resources at PESWiki.com
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Page posted by Sterling
D. Allan
Last updated April 01, 2012
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Dear Claud:
There is not my version , there is only one version of the Florida Bureau inspection at Leonardo Corporation, as a matter of fact it is the version derived from the actual facts: We have been very glad to receive their visit and we have explained to them all we had to. We agreed with them that we will keep them informed of all our developments and also explained to them that we do not use radioactive materials and do not produce radioactive materials. The persons we talked with are very prepared and expert, they have been right and correct, and I have been honoured to deal with them. What we said beyond this is confidential and I have nothing to add at all. I give no information at all regarding our factory, as I always said, until our production will be officially announced. I can say, and I am delighted to say this, that the Officers of the Florida State I have been contacted from are glad that we are making jobs in Florida with a company that respects the Law. Of course they will have free access to us in our Florida site, also to verify that we do not use radioactive material and we do not produce radioactive material and, also , we agreed that we will not sell in the USA the domestic E-Cats before the due certification, that will certify that no radiations are emitted from the E-Cats outside the body of the E-Cats while they are working.
Warm Regards,
A.R.
Dear Andrea can you please give us your version of the Florida Bureau inspection referred on some site ?
Thank you and good afternoon.
C.R.