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Momentous Breakthroughs Announced During Anniversary E-Cat Interview
In a landmark interview, Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the E-Cat (cold fusion energy catalyzer), announced many breakthroughs in the development of his technology, answered a wide range of questions, and shared many details regarding the upcoming ten kilowatt heat unit for home use.
PES Network has a business relationship with Andrea Rossi.
By Hank Mills
Pure Energy Systems News
Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the E-Cat
(Energy Catalyzer), does not give a large number of interviews (we know of three
in the past year). He is far too busy putting in often 14-16 hour days preparing
for the production of one million, ten kilowatt units for home use. However, on
the anniversary of the first press conference about the E-Cat technology that
took place January 14, 2011, he graciously allowed for an interview that turned
out to be very revealing. During the interview many questions were answered, and
a few revelations were made about the development of the E-Cat technology.
The 1.75-hour interview was predominantly led by Sterling Allan, with the host
of the "Smart Scare Crow" show -- Gary Hendershot -- chiming in from
time to time. Gary graciously allowed his show to be the platform for the
interview. This allowed the interview to stream live on the internet via
justin.tv, to around 250 people from around the world and to be recorded for
posting on YouTube. While the show took place listeners talked with each other
in an online chat room, and were able to ask questions -- many of which were
When Rossi could not answer a question in depth due to an NDA or to protect
proprietary information, he politely stated he could not go into details.
Despite the fact certain information had to remain confidential (such as the
catalysts used), he shared a great deal of information, and made a few
fascinating announcements about the technology.
Here's the show as
uploaded to YouTube last night by Gary.
The following is a review of many of the topics discussed, and bombshells
dropped. We also have a transcription
of the interview available.
|REACTOR CORE -- The reactor core of the home E-Cat unit is about
the size of a cigarette box, and is capable of producing ten kilowatts of
power. The size of the entire unit will be about the same as a home
computer (which I think indicates it is the size of a desktop.) This is a
significant reduction in size from previous figures provided. This makes a
home E-Cat unit very small and compact. He also claims that the weight has
been reduced as well.
It was also clarified that each individual home E-Cat system will utilize
one reactor core. This is different than what was stated only a couple
months ago, which indicates just how rapidly progress is being made. If
the reactor core is the size of a single pack of cigarettes (about 85
cubic centimeters) and can produce 10 kilowatts of power, this makes the
power density 117 watts per cubic centimeter -- a super high value!
SIMPLE REFUELING -- It was revealed home E-Cat units would be
capable of being re-fueled by individuals, and not by technicians. He
claimed it would be like changing the ink in a pen. After using a
cartridge for 180 service days (when the system is actively in use), the
system will indicate it needs to be replaced. Once a new cartridge is
obtained from his company or a member of their network, the old one will
be removed, and the new one popped in. The old cartridge will then be sent
to Leonardo Corporation to be recycled. Interestingly, he seemed to
indicate that much of the remaining nickel could be salvaged, and it would
only need to be re-processed. Each cartridge will cost only about ten
dollars, although at first the price could be slightly higher.
Once again, he asserted that such small amounts of nickel are used, that
there is zero possibility of a shortage due to the proliferation of the
E-Cat technology. If the entire world converted all their power producing
systems to run off nickel, only 1% of the annual production would be
Though the E-Cat is likely to propagate extensively, we envision many
other free energy technologies also emerging, and some of those modalities
don't consume any fuel whatsoever, and may be likely to obsolete many of
the potential long-term applications of the E-Cat. As cheap and abundant
as Nickel is, it isn't infinite, like some other energy sources such as
Zero Point Energy.
NO HYDROGEN CANISTER -- Unlike previous E-Cat systems which
required the use of a hydrogen canister, the new home E-Cat utilizes a
material inside of the reactor core which can release and absorb hydrogen.
Due to this, no hydrogen canister is needed. I am assuming that the
hydrogen release and absorption is controlled via the temperatures
produced in the reactor core. Probably when the heat is high the hydrogen
is released, and when the temperature goes down the hydrogen is absorbed.
Although about ten grams of hydrogen will be placed in the core, only
picograms will actually be consumed in the nuclear reactions.
The removal of the hydrogen canister will make the certification process
simpler, because it had previously been a significant hoop to jump
through. Also, I think the lack of hydrogen canister greatly contributes
to the size reduction of the system. This is a major breakthrough, and is
really, really big news!
DIRT CHEAP ENERGY -- The cost of a home E-Cat unit was stated to
be between $400 and $500 dollars. This will be accomplished through the
best engineering possible of the production line, automization of all
aspects of the factory, and the use of robotics. The goal is to make this
technology so affordable that everyone will be able to purchase a system,
and competitors will not be able to under sell him. Although his
technology will obviously be reverse-engineered when the units start to
sell, it does not matter because he will have a major head start.
SELF SUSTAIN -- The home E-Cat units will be made to self sustain.
For the first hour after being turned on, a unit will draw approximately
2.7 to 2.9 kilowatts of power to heat up the reactor core. After that
time, the system will self sustain, in that the only power consumed will
be used to power the electronics and control systems.
The ability of the system to self sustain will not be controlled by the
user, but will be totally automated by the control electronics. He
compared it to a hybrid electric car in which the computer decides whether
the engine runs or if the vehicle runs off the battery, or if the brakes
are applied or if the regenerative system is used to slow the vehicle.
NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS AND STABILITY -- National Instruments (NI) is
working with Rossi to design new control systems for the one megawatt and
home E-Cat. With these new control systems, the stability of E-Cat units
has been improved. The key issue needed to be resolved by the control
systems is the ability to keep the reactor stable when steam temperatures
above 120C are being produced. During the interview he stated that great
progress is being made. On his blog he has indicated that they have been
able to achieve stable steam production of 400C. This will be important
for the efficient production of electricity.
He went on to say that in a meeting with NI's engineers and scientists,
they explained to him that they did not want to just design a control
system for him, but wanted to teach him how to design one. Their
philosophy is not just to give a man a fish, but to teach the man to fish.
MILITARY CUSTOMER -- In addition to the help of NI, the Colonel
Engineer who controlled the test of the one megawatt plant on Oct. 28th is
working with Rossi to improve the control systems of the plant. Currently,
the customer and NI are working to improve the control system, and are
changing the gaskets in the system to stop leaks from taking place. He
mentioned that the military representative he is working with is an expert
into thermodynamic systems.
The fact that a new control system is being installed is not a bad thing.
It is a very good thing. If the customer was not satisfied the E-Cat
worked, he would not be helping with the development of a new control
system. The fact that the military, NI, other partners that remain
undisclosed, and Rossi are all working together on this project shows the
significance of the technology -- and its reality!
UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES -- Rossi said that they have sent
prototypes to UL, and they are working with them to get the home unit
certified for "UL approval".
This was a major announcement. If they are at this state of development,
it means they are very far along. This alone would be worthy of a feature
story. As far as we know, this is the first exotic free energy technology
that has been submitted for UL approval.
You don't submit something to UL until you have a final version. What is
submitted to UL is what is taken to market. If any changes are made, they
have to once again pass through the UL certification process, which takes
CATALYSTS -- In regards to a question about the importance of the
catalysts, Rossi stated that the system will not work without them.
According to him, no one has been able to make a practical nickel hydrogen
system because they did not have the proper catalysts. He did not refute
the statement that they are actual physical elements added to the reactor
core, in addition to nickel and hydrogen. It needs to be remembered that
he has stated over and over again that the catalysts are physical
elements, and not a type of process.
RADIO FREQUENCY GENERATORS -- In addition to the catalysts, a
question was asked about the radio frequency generator that somehow
interacts with the reactions inside of the core. Rossi stated this
information is very proprietary, but gave a few clues. First, he compared
the use of the radio frequencies to martial arts. He claims that the radio
frequency generator allows the forces that would normally prevent the
fusion process from taking place (Coulomb forces) to work for you, and not
against you. The full theory of how the system works will be revealed,
"soon," he said.
RESPONSE TIME -- Rossi explained that the E-Cat technology does
not have the response time of a gas powered heater that can be instantly
turned on and off. However, it is perfectly suitable for home heating.
Also, I think it should be pointed out that with the E-Cat technology it
does not matter a great deal if energy is wasted. For example, the energy
is so cheap, there will be no financial reason not to keep it turned on at
all times -- even if it can be slow to throttle up and down. If all of the
energy did not need to be used, some of the heat could be vented into the
It was also discussed that a great application of the E-Cat technology
will be to preheat water for power plants. However, there is a lot of
legal red-tape here, even if the technology is ready. It can take years
for a power plant to obtain the certifications to change their system in
SAFETY -- It was once again confirmed the device is totally and
completely safe. No radioactive substances are used, and no radioactive
waste is produced. Also, no pollution of any kind is emitted from the
device. Importantly, it cannot "melt down" like a traditional
nuclear reactor. In an E-Cat, if the reactions grow too intense the nickel
powder will simply melt (destroying all of the reaction sites) and the
nuclear reactions will cease.
GAMMA RADIATION AND ANTI-MATTER -- The E-Cat technology produces
low energy gamma radiation that is converted into heat inside of the
reactor. The signature of the gamma radiation that has been detected is
said to be 511 keV at 180 degrees. These gamma rays are thought to be
produced when electrons impact positrons and annihilate each other. So, if
we understand correctly, Rossi theorizes that inside of the E-Cat there
are anti-matter/matter annihilation taking place, releasing energy.
However, he stated this is just a side effect of what really takes place,
which he has previously indicated is nuclear fusion.
INVESTMENT -- Rossi is open to investment by businesses and
organizations that want to invest relatively small sums of money. However,
he is not interested in families and individuals investing in the
technology, because there are too many risks at this time. Although the
technology works, they have to get the E-Cat on the market successfully.
They have certifications to obtain, a factory to setup, and other issues
to deal with. Once the home units are on the market, they will at some
point "go public" and individuals will be capable of investing.
LICENSING -- In the interview, Rossi said they are considering
licensing inquiries. But his response to the inquiries that have come in
has been that he will consider these in September.
After the interview, Gary wrote the following to Rossi:
You were marvelous! Thank you so much for your patience. I think that
looking back on it, you will be very pleased with the quality of this
interview. I have listened to every interview you have done that I could
get my hands on and in my own humble opinion this one is by far the best.
You represent yourself as a thoughtful business man who understands the
complexity of putting an organization together but with the sort of
consideration for those who will be your customers and investors that many
of wish was more common these days.
Bravo !!! a fine piece of work
Due to the interview, I'm more convinced that ever the E-Cat technology is
not only real and works, but is racing towards the market place. With a top
notch team of partners working with him (including the military and National
Instruments) he is pushing to build a manufacturing plant capable of producing
units rapidly, at very low cost.
It seems every aspect of the E-Cat is advancing, and making the most of modern
technology. From using robotics to automate the production lines, to using
modern material science to eliminate the need of a hydrogen canister, to
utilizing the skills of National Instruments to design a state of the art
control system, he is taking nickel-hydrogen fusion technology to the next
On a final note, I would like to mention how the interview demonstrated the
dedicated and sincere nature of Rossi. He participated in the interview after a
16 hour work day. When the interview started, it was already 11:00PM his time
(in Rome). Despite being tired, he answered question after question.
After the interview was over, Sterling Allan made a comment about Andrea Rossi
to Gary Hendershot that I would like mention. He basically stated that some
people may criticize Rossi for his unorthodox methods, or the fact he does not
go about science the way the "mainstream" scientific community says
someone should. However, the very fact that he does not abide by the exact
methodologies of mainstream, closed minded scientists is why he has been able to
invent the E-Cat technology and take it so far. He never gives up, and he keeps
on going despite what cynics, competitors, and others may say about him.
I think what is more important than the E-Cat technology itself is the fact that
it will expose that the "mainstream" scientific community has no
authority to define science, or who is doing real science. Just because someone
is not doing research in a way that exactly fits academic protocols, does not
mean it is not "science." For example, Nikola Tesla invented many
technologies that we use today, such as the induction motor and alternating
current. However, his methods were not what the mainstream would accept as
By the end of this year or early next year ("next Winter") when the
million E-Cat units start to ship, the scientific community will be forced to
admit the greatest discovery of the past several decades was made by someone who
did not abide strictly by their dogma. The official "scientific
method" is a great tool and provides fantastic guidelines, but it can also
limit creativity and slow down progress. Perhaps there are other methods that
are better -- that do not suppress breakthrough technologies like cold fusion
for twenty years.
Lets all thank Andrea Rossi for the work he has done on the E-Cat. The best way
you can help, is by pre-ordering an E-Cat (through the ECat.com
website). Also, spread the word far and wide about the E-Cat technology, even to
your friends who have never heard about cold fusion. We need to spread awareness
of this amazing technology.
Here's a follow-up series of questions (by Hank) and answers (by Rossi)
|Q) Will the home E-Cat unit work with a standard 110 volt connection, or
will it require a 220 volt connection (since during start up a few
kilowatts are needed)?
A) 11O VOLTS WILL BE OK IN THE USA. WE WILL BE FIT WITH THE DOMESTIC
VOLTAGE OF THE COUNTRY THE E-CAT WILL WORK IN.
Q) Since this is a brand new design, will the home E-Cat unit still be
capable of being retrofitted to produce electricity, when appropriate
electrical generators become available?
Q) Will the home E-Cat unit have any settings other than on and off?
A) YES, THE STRICT NECESSARY
Q) What is the max temperature output you want the home E-Cat unit to
offer? Are you hoping for it to produce 400C, for later retrofitting?
Q) Will the home E-Cat have a primary fluid other than water (for example
molten salt), that travels through a heat exchanger? Or will the primary
fluid be water?
A) WATER FOR HEAT, DIATHERMIC OIL PLUS HEAT EXCHANGER FOR ELECTRIC POWER
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PESN Coverage of E-Cat
For a more exhaustive listing, see News:Rossi_Cold_Fusion
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 22, 2012
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 15, 2012
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 8, 2012
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- November 1, 2012
Weekly -- October 25, 2012
Weekly -- October 18, 2012
Andrea Rossi's Black Box -- by Popular Science (PESN; October 16,
Penon High-Temperature E-Cat Test Results Posted (PESN)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- October 11, 2012 (PESN)
Weekly -- October 4, 2012 (PESN)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- September 27, 2012 (PESN)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- September 20, 2012 (PESN)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- September 13, 2012 (PESN)
2012 E-Cat Conference Report: 1 MW E-Cat Ready (PESN; September
September 9: Andrea Rossi Q&A, Panel Discussion, Interview
Gives Third-Party Test Results from Hot Cat
Weekly -- September 6, 2012 (PESN; September 6, 2012)
E-Cat Conference in Zurich (PESWiki;
August 31, 2012)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 30, 2012 (PESN)
A Barrel of a Hundred High Temperature E-Cats (PESN;
August 30, 2012)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 23, 2012 (PESN)
Existence of 1,200C E-Cat Test Report Confirmed (PESN;
August 22, 2012)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 16, 2012 (PESN)
about Hot Cat Test Data Leaker (PESN;
August 13, 2012)
Stunning Third Party E-Cat Test Report Details Leaked During NIWeek (PESN;
August 11, 2012)
LENR-to-Market Weekly -- August 9, 2012 (PESN)
Mainstream Coverage of Fleischmann's Death Mentions Nothing of Technology Nearing Marketplace (PESN;
August 8, 2012)