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RUNNING ON WATER
Rough Plans for Replicating Freddy's Water Cell (Version 6)

James Sharp and Adam W., who have been working directly with Frederick Wells to replicate his water-fuel cell technology for enabling a vehicle to run on water through on-board electrolysis, while harnessing excess energy from the environment somehow; have finally published a preliminary version of the plans that they have so far.

Preface by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News


James Sharp and Adam's replication of Freddy's prototype 6.

 

The following open source plans are copied for archive/back-up purposes from the start page: http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/ 

The plans are being prepared by James Sharp, who is working with Adam to replicate Frederick Well's water-fuel cell, prototype 6.  They are working directly with Freddy on location in Prescott, Arizona, USA.

James used to work for the US Department of Defense in a quality evaluation lab, so he knows the procedures for taking care to document everything meticulously and accurately.  He is also thinking ahead to people making many of these for local customers who might want one, and he wants it to be reliable and durable.

The plans presently are very rough in their presentation, and will be cleaned up with more details and descriptions once they have been able to achieve a successful replication (running a vehicle on water through on-board electrolysis, harvesting energy from the environment somehow in the process).  That will be presented in an ebook.

The venue for the plans is capable of collaborative editing and posting by those integrally involved in the project, which includes about half a dozen people presently.

The reason that these have not been posted before now is that it has been difficult to get a consistent set of instructions from Freddy, who's mind is always racing and thinking of better ways to do things, rather than regurgitating what was done in the past.  Furthermore, "version 6" contains elements from at least three of the earlier versions, and Freddy didn't take careful notes on what or how he did things.  He just did them.

Though James and Adam have had these instructions for a while, they have hesitated to post them inasmuch as some of these components are not cheap; and until the plans are shown to result in a working water-fuel cell, they don't want to be propagating incomplete or inaccurate information.

Another delay is introduced by Freddy's very friendly nature in allowing whoever shows up to come in and chat (or taking calls), so that a 6-hour block of time set apart might actually contain 20 minutes of productive interaction on the agenda item.

As of Nov. 30, 2010, James and Adam have been able to get the cell to operate, but it doesn't produce much gas, so they need to work on the tuning, ... 

Some tips James gave me today include:

  • Don't use cold water filter [for the container?], as it cracks when it gets hot, and the cell runs hot.  cPVC, schedule 80 is preferred.
  • For mounting end caps, to cut on expense, make flat caps with ridge plus O-rings and clamp with thread stock.
  • Use RV relay so the relay doesn't overheat.

Table of Contents

Replication Guide


Replication Guide

As of November 30, 2010

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/6 

NOTE: This is a pre-alpha release of this guide. Please do not run out and buy parts to replicate just yet until we deem a reasonable beta release state. This is to avoid confusion and save you time, money and frustration. We fully intend to open source the information needed to replicate this technology and this document will serve as a constantly evolving source of information on how to do this.

This document will serve to organize into a hierarchy the necessary tools, equipment, parts and methods to replicate the technology.


Introduction

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/23

This is a general summary of what we have learned over the years making a vehicle run on what is referred to as HHO. The truck that was running in our video was the summation of 7 months using our version 6 cell system.

We found that producing HHO in the right volume, correct pressure and connecting it to the fuel injection rail, our truck ran good and without any other power source.

Safety Precautions

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/8

Hydrogen is extremely volatile and measures must be taken to ensure your safety and the safety of those around you. Here will will review some practical safety measures when working with this technology.

Pressure

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/25

HHO generally cannot be compressed safely because it was water and the cell expanded it into a gas. So if you compress it above 15 psi, it may implode with great force destroying the container and causing great danger.

As we understand it our version 6 built with nine outer tube sets and one inner tube set solves the problem in this way: The outer tube sets generate the HHO gas and the inner tube set releases ions that mix with the HHO to form a heavy gas molecule. Some evidence that this is the case is that after delivering the gas to a large open container and waiting several minutes we can ignite the contents and the gas making a loud bang. If the gas was just HHO, the hydrogen being lighter than air, would rise and be lost; therefore, no reaction.

This heavy gas can also be generated in a dry cell if there are several neutral plates in the cell because the neutral plates give off ions.

We have been able to compress the heavy HHOi (HHO+ions) to over 100 psi without any problems. We have developed this new nomenclature, HHOi for what we think is a heavy version of HHO.

Volume

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/26

You must have enough gas to satisfy the needs of your engine and the engine most able to provide the energy required to generate the HHOi needed. These requirements can be met two ways. First, develop a cell that is efficient enough to provide the HHOi with minimal energy. Second, provide a large quantity of cells that combined will generate the HHOi needed.

The HHO community has been able to increase gas production and to increase the energy efficiency in a lot of different ways. We have been working with tuned tubes that are driven by the pulse width modulator (PWM) at a resonant frequency that corresponds with the tubes frequency. When this is accomplished, we have been able to increase the volume by a factor of 3 to 7 times using the same energy.

Choosing a Test Vehicle

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/24

We have focused using HHOi in post 1996 vehicles because they are manufactured to the OBD2 standards. When an engine changes fuel types several items must be changed. The most important are ignition timing and air/fuel ratio. When modifying vehicles that are manufactured after 1996, the onboard computers must be considered because they monitor and control these functions. The computer controls the air/fuel ratio by limiting the amount of time the injectors are turned on. This worked fine with our truck when we replaced gasoline with HHOi.

The timing is a bigger issue. The onboard computer has a limited range of adjustments (-27 tdc to -10 tdc or 17 change) for the ignition timing and HHOi needs ignition at tdc to tdc +5. We found on our truck that disconnecting the NOx sensor the computer defaulted to –5 tdc and this was good enough for the test cell. This can be a major issue on some vehicles. Each vehicle will need to be analyzed to find if the timing can be adjusted into the proper range. Our industry needs to develop methods to modify and control engine timing.

We hope others will use this information to get their vehicles running 100% HHOi.

Status of Replication Guide

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/38

Our version 6c prototype was disabled by a crack in the cell container wall. We are building a second version 6c cell while the first one is being analyzed for why it failed. Concurrently some of the team is developing a version 6d moving forward. The version 6c tubes are 1/2 resonant frequency length and version 6d has full resonant frequency length.

Our biggest issue now is the overwhelming interest by others that are trying to get involved with this process. This has slowed up our progress and made it difficult to proceed. We were anxious to show our progress but probably should have waited until we had replicated the system in more vehicles. We have received over 7,000 emails and hundreds of phone calls in the first few days.

Once we have been able to replicate the effect and document the steps taken to do so, we will release those plans.


Tools Needed

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/7

Here we list the tools that one will need in the replication process.

[null as of Nov. 30]


Parts List

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/9

Here we will maintain a list of parts, their part numbers, specifications, how they might need to be modified and where they can be acquired.

Cell Housing

GE Household Pre-Filtration System Model# GXWH40L

Nine Tube Sets

Inner - 9 - 316L stainless steel 7" long, 0.75" outside dia., 0.065" wall

Outer - 9 - 316L stainless steel 6" long, 1.00" outside dia., 0.035" wall

Center Tube Set

Inner - 1 - 316L stainless steel 7" long, 1.75" outside dia., 0.065" wall

Outer - 1 - 316L stainless steel 6" long, 2.00" outside dia., 0.065" wall

Fusible Link for coils

130 ft. - 12GA. (3.0 SQ. mm) Fusible Link. This used for coils to the 10 SS tube se


Cell Assembly

http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/46 

We are replicating the cell that Freddy used in his truck that ran on 100% HHO. Please wait to invest in this process until we have tested the information we have gathered. We have bought the materials and have finished the assembly of the cell. Here are the photos of our assembly of the cell based on the information from Freddy.

[Go to Page 2 - contains around 20 photos and brief descriptions]

END OF PLANS
As of Nov. 30, 2010

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Page posted by Sterling D. Allan Nov. 30, 2010
Last updated December 06, 2011 
 
 

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